Comments Thread For: Arum Admits Lomachenko Great, May Never Be Crossover Star

[g27region]

Its rough going with making a non-latino foreign guy a star in the US. The only guys who I think have done it, certainly recently, are Manny & Lennox. The odds are stacked against Loma doing it & I don't see that KO power that Manny & Lennox had that helped their path in Loma. People like for you to make it easy for them & nothing is easier than you just KOing mfers.

Not sure where Loma could have a better way of it really doe. Does Germany like lil guys? Obviously the Klitchko's made Germany a home away from home & I'm sure padded their bank accounts greatly via German wire transfers, but who doesn't like heavyweights. So I guess Loma is probably doing as good for himself as possible, but TR & Loma still got their work cut out for them trying to make Loma big in the US &/or a PPV star.

I've forgot about British boxers, they also have a potential to become a big boxing stars because there's no such thing as the language barrier between British and American people, and the cultural barrier is really small. And Philippines was influenced by America in colonial era, so I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people who can speak English in Phillipines. But boxers from places like Ukraine or Kazakhstan don't have NO chances to become stars of ANY magnitude in pro boxing, it's just impossible. I'm from Russia, but if I was an American promoter I'd treat all these Ukranian/Russian boxers like scum and I definitely would never try to make ppv stars out of them, I think Bob Arum is smart enough to follow that logic, I'd better find some Latin or American boxer (black or mexican, since white americans sucks at boxing and they're only good in Rocky movies) who can relate to US audience to make sure he'll be selling those ppv numbers. And Lomachenko can't even speak English. Majority of great amateur boxers from Russia don't get any pro boxing offers for a reason

[Eff Pandas]

I've forgot about British boxers, they also have a potential to become a big boxing stars because there's no such thing as the language barrier between British and American people, and the cultural barrier is really small. And Philippines was influenced by America in colonial era, so I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people who can speak English in Phillipines. But boxers from places like Ukraine or Kazakhstan don't have NO chances to become stars of ANY magnitude in pro boxing, it's just impossible. I'm from Russia, but if I was an American promoter I'd treat all these Ukranian/Russian boxers like scum and I definitely would never try to make ppv stars out of them, I think Bob Arum is smart enough to follow that logic, I'd better find some Latin or American boxer who can relate to US audience to make sure he'll be selling those ppv numbers. And Lomachenko can't even speak English. Majority of great amateur boxers from Russia don't get any pro boxing offers for a reason

I think there is more going on then just speaking English. I think Americans just got a overall negative opinion of foreigners that is a tough first barrier to break thru for boxers. It'll be interesting for me to see if Fury or Joshua can become stars in the US in any way shape or form. I definitely don't think its a given & why wouldn't both those guys be huge in the US just cuz Fury is a guy who fans love to hate & thus far in his young career Joshua is Mike Tysoning everyone which is that thing that crosses all barriers.

I'd also say that GGG still has some small window at becoming mainstream in mid to late 30's, which while not ideal by any means, is a take what you can get situation. He's gonna need Canelo's help doe & Canelo ain't really looking out for GGG's mainstream stardom.

But what that says to me is that Eastern European guys can build an audience under the right conditions if marketed right & have that crosses all barriers knocking the people the eff out ability which several of these guys do. Gassiev is super young. I really dig Beterbiev even if he's a lil older already. Hell I still think Kovalev has a chance of becoming a bigger player mainstream if he'd take on more of a Floyd/bad guy type role (why more guys don't fill the open gap of being the bad guy in boxing like Ali back in the day, Floyd & Fury & to lesser degrees Mayorga & Camacho Sr I'll never know). And there are tons more guys out there still on the way up who can make an impact. I definitely expect SOMEONE out of the Ukraine or Kazakstan or somewhere around those parts to eventually get some success in the US, but I don't think it'll be Loma. He's too lil, he doesn't seem to be putting guys to sleep, he doesn't seem to have that lil extra flair that can help guys get more mainstream appeal too.

[VatoMulatto]

Majority of the boxers will never become crossover stars and it's even more difficult for these smaller dudes to be crossover stars in America and Europe. Smaller guys are only appreciated by casuals in Asia and Latin America.

[1g5a22]

Who cares if he crosses over to the casuals? Chocolito isn't crossing over & he's exceptional too. It will be an exceptional feat if he wins tonight.

[Willy Wanker]

It's rare for Featherweights to become crossover stars. Hamed and Pacquiao are the only ones in recent memory. Maybe Barrera and Morales to a smaller extent.

Lomachenko is moving up to 130, but not too many fighters below 135 become crossover stars.

[HeroBando]

I've forgot about British boxers, they also have a potential to become a big boxing stars because there's no such thing as the language barrier between British and American people, and the cultural barrier is really small. And Philippines was influenced by America in colonial era, so I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people who can speak English in Phillipines. But boxers from places like Ukraine or Kazakhstan don't have NO chances to become stars of ANY magnitude in pro boxing, it's just impossible. I'm from Russia, but if I was an American promoter I'd treat all these Ukranian/Russian boxers like scum and I definitely would never try to make ppv stars out of them, I think Bob Arum is smart enough to follow that logic, I'd better find some Latin or American boxer (black or mexican, since white americans sucks at boxing and they're only good in Rocky movies) who can relate to US audience to make sure he'll be selling those ppv numbers. And Lomachenko can't even speak English. Majority of great amateur boxers from Russia don't get any pro boxing offers for a reason

Ggg is a star

[b00g13man]

Was he ever supposed to crossover?

[g27region]

Ggg is a star

A star who can't even sell 200, 000 on ppv

[The Problem Child]

Loma is good but nothing makes him stand out, he is not too entertaining to watch. He is like staring at an ice hokey puck moving around but after a while it gets dull.

[sicko]

Well the good thing about Loma is that he is still very young but thanks to the way HBO has Dumb Down Boxing and how they built up a Low IQ Boxing Fanbase that think if you don't score quick KO's then you can't be a great fighter, yeah it is going to be tough for Loma given his style and the fact that he is NOT a Knockout Artist, he is a Tactician in this ERA of Ignorance

It sucks that a great Sports that is suppose to be about the Sweet Science gotten Dumb Down over the years for Selfish Gain for a Network that is only looking out for itself.

I'm a Loma fan, love his style, I'm more impressed with guys who can put on Boxing Clinics for 12 Rounds than I am guys who simply score KO's quickly vs Weak Opponents

Loma is not for this ERA of Dumb Casuals so yeah sadly that might keep him from becoming a Superstar regardless if he keeps winning