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    The end of boxing in NY?????

    New York state athletic commission and top rank going at it! Here's the link fellas..
    http://nypost.com/2016/06/10/this-could-be-the-end-of-top-ranks-boxing-in-new-york/
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    George Willis has been writing a lot about this subject.

    Something to keep an eye on...we'll see what happens.

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      Yea, we'll see, supposedly all started with the coming of professional MMAto NY......eager to see what happens since from what I read the NYSAC failed to show face at a conference.

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        NY is nuts. They were the last to jump on board with MMA & now they jumped on board with MMA they are trying to f#ck **** up with boxing. What in the f#ck NY.

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          I'm not so sure the NYSAC doesn't have this one right. There needs to be measures in place to protect boxers. On site medical care is good but fighters, corers and the ref need to put health above entertainment to a certain degree.

          They maybe should adjust the amount and how long the bond needs to be put up (maybe 24 hours before the fight thru the post fight medical exam) but they shouldn't get rid of it IMO.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-10-2016, 11:15 AM.

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            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I'm not so sure the NYSAC doesn't have this one right. There needs to be measures in place to protect boxers. On site medical care is good but fighters, corers and the ref need to put health above entertainment to a certain degree.

            They maybe should adjust the amount and how long the bond needs to be put up (maybe 24 hours before the fight thru the post fight medical exam) but they shouldn't get rid of it IMO.
            Yea actually reading more about what this is all about it makes sense to go up on the insurance. If it needs to go up so much is legit question, but honestly it should be more than it currently is so fair play to NY with this thing. I suspect they'll lower the amount before Sept. 1, when something needs to happen, anyway so this will ultimately be a non-story.

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              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Yea actually reading more about what this is all about it makes sense to go up on the insurance. If it needs to go up so much is legit question, but honestly it should be more than it currently is so fair play to NY with this thing. I suspect they'll lower the amount before Sept. 1, when something needs to happen, anyway so this will ultimately be a non-story.
              $10k isn't enough. ARum is lying as usual, that piece of shit can afford the insurance bond without issue. They will definitely get the money back just as in any bond situation. That said, I know other promoters may not be able to afford it.

              I just think this is the way to go, especially now that we are in the era where guys like Kirkland, Provo and Rosado get fight after fight in part because they lose so violently.

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                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                I'm not so sure the NYSAC doesn't have this one right. There needs to be measures in place to protect boxers. On site medical care is good but fighters, corers and the ref need to put health above entertainment to a certain degree.

                They maybe should adjust the amount and how long the bond needs to be put up (maybe 24 hours before the fight thru the post fight medical exam) but they shouldn't get rid of it IMO.


                that's going to tie up way too much cash, even for a major player like bob arum. it's just not going to be worth it when you can promote a fight in new jersey without having to put up a million bucks a pop for an indefinite period.

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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  $10k isn't enough. ARum is lying as usual, that piece of shit can afford the insurance bond without issue. They will definitely get the money back just as in any bond situation. That said, I know other promoters may not be able to afford it.

                  I just think this is the way to go, especially now that we are in the era where guys like Kirkland, Provo and Rosado get fight after fight in part because they lose so violently.



                  you ahve absolutely no idea what the cash flow at top rank looks like, and aren't qualified to speak on it. this is a million dollars a pop. it's not chump change. that's "make or break" type money. you immediately attack arum for his decision, doe


                  love this place.

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                    Originally posted by New England
                    that's going to tie up way too much cash, even for a major player like bob arum. it's just not going to be worth it when you can promote a fight in new jersey without having to put up a million bucks a pop for an indefinite period.
                    that's true. I didn't think about that.

                    Originally posted by New England
                    you ahve absolutely no idea what the cash flow at top rank looks like, and aren't qualified to speak on it. this is a million dollars a pop. it's not chump change. that's "make or break" type money. you immediately attack arum for his decision, doe


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                    Bob Arum is a multi millionaire whose net worth has been estimated above $150 million. You are correct, I don't know exactly what the cash flow is at TR. However, we both know that each time Manny has fought, Bob has given him cash advances that far exceeds $1 mil.

                    Therefore, it is reasonable for me to conclude that he can afford to put up a bond that is 7x less then the advances I know he has paid out, a bond that will then be returned to him so long as a fighter does not sustain injuries that exceeds that amount.

                    I said that the number would have to be adjusted as well. SO please, stop with your fake outrage. One doesn't have to know everything about TR to have an opinion on Bob being cheap.
                    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-10-2016, 02:07 PM.

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