What If Pacquiao Had Defeated Mayweather?

[Zaroku]

No matter how little Floyd did, Manny did less. The rounds that Manny did more he won. He didn't deserve to win rounds where he did less. I get you love Manny but it is disgusting you want him to be given credit for a win he didn't earn.

Manny fanatics are still stuck on 5/2/2015. It is amazing, it really is, a wound that never heals.

I am speculating here, but I think they were hoping a win over Floyd would undo the devastating KO Marquez applied to PAC. Iconic at this point.

Their logic, if PAC had won:

Since Floyd beat Marquez with ease, they would be able to make the triangulation case, that since PAC beat Floyd, and Floyd beat Marquez with ease, PAC is God!

[ADP02]

My perception was that PAC had a few good rounds. I gave him 4 for sure, 5 stretching it. Not thinking IV, TUE, shoulder stuff, or slow motion, nor do I care what Spain thought.

PAC lost that fight. I believe Castillo beat Floyd or deserved to keep his title. In comparison, Maidana did well too.

All the rest, DLH, Cotto, PAC, Canelo, etc, clearly lost.

If you are objective about it, I have no problem with someone thinking that Floyd won. What I do not care for is someone saying he won big and being subjective about it.

After the fight, I brought up a few rounds where I believed Manny should have gotten more credit for. I brought up round 3, as an example. Floyd fans laughed it off and said Floyd won round 3 BIG! After I challenged them, they had a hard time finding anything that Floyd did. So as I stated, its all about perception and Vegas judges. Floyd knew he was going to win all the close rounds even though Manny deserved more than he got.

People expected Manny to do more. So he only got the rounds that he did noticeably more.

[Zaroku]

If you are objective about it, I have no problem with someone thinking that Floyd won. What I do not care for is someone saying he won big and being subjective about it.

After the fight, I brought up a few rounds where I believed Manny should have gotten more credit for. I brought up round 3, as an example. Floyd fans laughed it off and said Floyd won round 3 BIG! After I challenged them, they had a hard time finding anything that Floyd did. So as I stated, its all about perception and Vegas judges. Floyd knew he was going to win all the close rounds even though Manny deserved more than he got.

People expected Manny to do more. So he only got the rounds that he did noticeably more.

Compared to Castillo and Maidana, who actually did more, PAC failed to bring it.

But, each fight is it's own unique event. I try my best to not think of other fights, just the one in front of me. I posted my round by round break down for spoon23, PAC lost.

Do you agree that slow motion is a sword that cuts two ways?
PAC loses and t@rds wants slow motion. He wins a close fight, t@rds not posting slow motion.

But, they are not biased right?

[The Big Dunn]

My friend, The Big Dunn ....

Challenge: Analyze round 3. All 3 judges gave it to Floyd. Did he deserve it? Nope!

I've seen the fight. Floyd won round 3. Manny didn't nor did he deserve to.

Your basic premise is make rounds close that weren't so you can argue preferential treatment being the reason the judges gave Floyd the round. Problem is, objective media people scoring the fight, even those that hate Floyd, scored the fight as the judges did.

So were they involved in whatever conspiracy you hint at with the judges?

[therealpugilist]

You can have a loss, be in close fights and still be considered fighter of the decade.

You prefer Floyd winning the lineal title from Baldomir instead of taking on riskier opponents including some where he may have not been the favorite going into the fight. Got it!

Floyd fights as a negative fighter. This is not my line but from a boxing trainer.

not when you have a fighter who does undefeated and had been a champion since 1998 sorry bro...stop reaching.

Mayweather also had more title defenses and beat more champions....didnt need a million rematches because he was dominant in most of his fights


"riskier" or someone you WANTED to see him fight....is it the Margarito was a beast crap....dude lost to every elite fighter he faced. Easy work...dude was slow as crap with a good chin and stamina and rudimentary skills on the elite level. Thats why lost to a prospect in williams, no names earlier in his career and couldnt even get by daniel santos.....yea he was monster lol

[The Big Dunn]

Manny fanatics are still stuck on 5/2/2015. It is amazing, it really is, a wound that never heals.

I am speculating here, but I think they were hoping a win over Floyd would undo the devastating KO Marquez applied to PAC. Iconic at this point.

Their logic, if PAC had won:

Since Floyd beat Marquez with ease, they would be able to make the triangulation case, that since PAC beat Floyd, and Floyd beat Marquez with ease, PAC is God!

That is likely part of it.

IMO, losing the way he did supports the theory that Bob/Manny kept refusing the fight because this was always going to be the outcome. It goes back to something Lou DiBella said:

Everything Juan Manuel Marquez does well Floyd does five times as well. Marquez didn’t win 30 seconds of his fight against Floyd. Marquez’ style gave Pacquiao fits, explain to me where Pacquiao’s chances lie in beating Mayweather? I don’t think he has any.

I think if anything’s clear right now, is that it’s a very bad fight for Manny Pacquiao. It appears to me the people around Pacquiao and Pacquiao may believe that.

http://www.examiner.com/article/lou-...manny-pacquiao

[Zaroku]

That is likely part of it.

IMO, losing the way he did supports the theory that Bob/Manny kept refusing the fight because this was always going to be the outcome. It goes back to something Lou DiBella said:



http://www.examiner.com/article/lou-...manny-pacquiao

Agreed. Marquez said several times Floyd would beat Manny.
T@rds, post video of Nacho saying Floyd ran. Yet, they fail to factor in the fact that Nacho said, Marquez beat PAC four times.

Selective quoting! So much bias. It is sad.

[therealpugilist]

That is likely part of it.

IMO, losing the way he did supports the theory that Bob/Manny kept refusing the fight because this was always going to be the outcome. It goes back to something Lou DiBella said:



http://www.examiner.com/article/lou-...manny-pacquiao

he had been around mayweather since he was a teenager....he promoted both...anyone with common sense would favor the guy who makes it look easy against top shelve fighters nearly every fight

Manny was pleasing to the eye....excitement edge goes to manny

ring IQ, technique, know how and adaptability went to floyd...those attributes win fights

he knew he had to milk manny as long as he could. why would he want a client who left him( who became the highest paid boxer ever) to beat his new pet project/ cash cow.

anyone who thought it was going to happen in 09-10 which was the height of manny mania were on some good crack. "tak teh muh Pamoter BROB ADRUM!"

power and wars win fans...totally different thing

[Zaroku]

What's with these "What if" threads? What if...you stop fantasizing about what didn't happen, and deal with what has happened?

Excellent!!! Excellent Post.

Awesome. Simple yet elegant logic.

[b00g13man]

Damn! People still crying about this? It's been a year. Move on.