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  • Tony Trick-Pony
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    Marinating Is Pointless

    This whole marinating process is pointless. Canelo-GGG will not be any bigger now or ever and even it was, who gives a damn? Canelo is a not a huge, cross over star and neither is Golovkin. A year from now, they still won't be.

    Kovalev-Ward is in the same boat. These guys are not cross over either. In the case of supposed marinating, this only works when you have names that cross over but none of these guys have that. I'd say Golovkin has the most potential.

    Now, people say what about Pacquiao-Mayweather? Both WERE cross over stars and even then, that died on the vine anyway. By the time it happened, the money was great. It would have been greater even two or three years sooner. What does this mean?

    Make the fights NOW!

    Marinating is and always will be a BS cop out to waste time and hide a promoter's fighter from the inevitable arse whooping and somehow more time will build more interest. It's ridiculous! How is more time going to make any difference? They will be no bigger next year than they are now. This is all pointless stalling.

    You want boxing to do better?

    Put these fights together this year in September and November. If they produce the fireworks we think, then have rematches and then more money and more cross over appeal. If you really want to help the sport out, promote the hell out of them and put them on free TV on a Monday night, like in the 70s. Everyone would be watching that and boxing would damn sure be on the map again. Then folks would pay for the pay per view.
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    Marinatin = riding the interest to make more money in the long run. If Mayweather and Pacquiao fought straight away would the loser have been selling 1 mil+ ppvs per fight? I doubt it. Of course this doesn't really work for Golovkin because he's not a PPV fighter.

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    • RussB23
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      #3
      Marinating adds more flavor, your wrong.

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #4
        Originally posted by anthonydavid11
        This whole marinating process is pointless. Canelo-GGG will not be any bigger now or ever and even it was, who gives a damn? Canelo is a not a huge, cross over star and neither is Golovkin. A year from now, they still won't be.

        Kovalev-Ward is in the same boat. These guys are not cross over either. In the case of supposed marinating, this only works when you have names that cross over but none of these guys have that. I'd say Golovkin has the most potential.

        Now, people say what about Pacquiao-Mayweather? Both WERE cross over stars and even then, that died on the vine anyway. By the time it happened, the money was great. It would have been greater even two or three years sooner. What does this mean?

        Make the fights NOW!


        Marinating is and always will be a BS cop out to waste time and hide a promoter's fighter from the inevitable arse whooping and somehow more time will build more interest. It's ridiculous! How is more time going to make any difference? They will be no bigger next year than they are now. This is all pointless stalling.

        You want boxing to do better?

        Put these fights together this year in September and November. If they produce the fireworks we think, then have rematches and then more money and more cross over appeal. If you really want to help the sport out, promote the hell out of them and put them on free TV on a Monday night, like in the 70s. Everyone would be watching that and boxing would damn sure be on the map again. Then folks would pay for the pay per view.
        The more they say no the more you are going to pay to see it.

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        • Scipio2009
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          #5
          what is "marinating" though?

          Originally posted by anthonydavid11
          This whole marinating process is pointless. Canelo-GGG will not be any bigger now or ever and even it was, who gives a damn? Canelo is a not a huge, cross over star and neither is Golovkin. A year from now, they still won't be.

          Kovalev-Ward is in the same boat. These guys are not cross over either. In the case of supposed marinating, this only works when you have names that cross over but none of these guys have that. I'd say Golovkin has the most potential.

          Now, people say what about Pacquiao-Mayweather? Both WERE cross over stars and even then, that died on the vine anyway. By the time it happened, the money was great. It would have been greater even two or three years sooner. What does this mean?

          Make the fights NOW!

          Marinating is and always will be a BS cop out to waste time and hide a promoter's fighter from the inevitable arse whooping and somehow more time will build more interest. It's ridiculous! How is more time going to make any difference? They will be no bigger next year than they are now. This is all pointless stalling.

          You want boxing to do better?

          Put these fights together this year in September and November. If they produce the fireworks we think, then have rematches and then more money and more cross over appeal. If you really want to help the sport out, promote the hell out of them and put them on free TV on a Monday night, like in the 70s. Everyone would be watching that and boxing would damn sure be on the map again. Then folks would pay for the pay per view.
          As an example, Deontay Wilder versus Anthony Joshua (hopefully for the undisputed/unified heavyweight championship) is arguably the next blockbuster PPV fight; Alvarez-Golovkin, even if it does happen at some point, isn't going to set the boxing world on fire (doubt that it gets close to 1m PPV buys, at any price).

          That fight is at least 16 months away from happening, with enough interim steps to work through to get there (Wilder - wins in July, closes out the year against against Fury[opens the year against Fury-Klitschko3 winner], settles WBA mandatory; Joshua - defends belt this month, settles IBF mandatory, raises profile with Haye fight, has a showcase fight in the US).

          Rushing the fight, not only makes for a lesser fight, but takes money off of everyone's plates.

          Kovalev-Ward happening in November works, largely because of the extended layoff from Ward; Ward stepping into the Kovalev fight less than sharp detracts from both fighters, hence the time.

          Imagine what would've been said if Ward, after almost 2 years out of the ring, and looking solid against Paul Smith at 172, June 2015, fought Sergey Kovalev in March. tf?

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          • Redd Foxx
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            #6
            Business-wise, it's certainly not pointless. Much better idea than something like Postol/Crawford where you're taking two super-talented guys who haven't had enough time to be built up, force one of them to have a 0 on his record (which ensures he'll have a harder time becoming popular), and putting them in a PPV that's bound to be seen by few rather than on TV where they'll get the exposure they need.

            Even though Canelo/Golovkin would do well now, it'll do even better if Golovkin goes and beats a couple guys with name value and Canelo continues his highlight reel type wins. It gives time for the casuals to garner interest in both guys.

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            • Weltschmerz
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              #7
              There is a such thing as over marinating.

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              • The Problem Child
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                #8
                Marinating = waiting for Golovkin to disappear.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #9
                  Man who cares,these guys are in the business of making millions and are protecting their investments....thats just how it is these days..all our complaining aint gone change 1 damn thing

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                  • Tony Trick-Pony
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Golovkin
                    Marinating = waiting for Golovkin to disappear.
                    This makes perfect sense to me.

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