Arthur Abraham vs. Saul Alvarez at 168lbs

[gmc_rfc_06]

Canelo is not what i would call a top fighter. He struggled against an old shot Cotto who had done nothing praiseworthy for years, except beating an old cripple and losing to Trout. Canelo also struggled so much against Trout and Lara that many people feel it should have been a draw or that Canelo even deserved to lose. Add in the fact that Canelo was probably the easiest opponent that Mayweather had fought in many years and the fact that even Canelo himself seems insecure about which weightclass he can survive in, then he suddenly doesn't look like a top fighter anymore.

Abraham would beat him brutally.

That's because virtually every thread you make is about Canelo and how you dont like him.

We get it.

[Scipio2009]

Canelo is already fighting on about 180 lbs of bodyweight in fights agreed to be at 155 lbs. Imagine how heavy he would be at a fight agreed to be at 168 lbs. He could very well come in at 200 lbs. Abraham would be fighting a heavyweight here, but a heavyweight who is struggling against even light middleweights.

I don't think that Alvarez fights anywhere near as heavy as you seem to think; if Alvarez truly was at 180lbs, boiling 25lbs off of the body would've already shown disastrous effects on performance. I think that the 170lb figure is about right for Alvarez's current weight is.

Simple rule of thumb (can check it against other folks if you want); from whatever your fight-fit weight is, 15lbs/a stone is generally the max that a person can boiled down until the fluid loss effects performance (largely punch resistance and stamina late in a fight).

No different than Amir Khan, after trying to bulk up a bit, getting to his fighting fit weight and only working his way down to 155 (rather than working down the stone of weight that I imagine the body can lose/gain and still perform well)

[_Maxi]

^^^look at this idiot.

A fit Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, primed to fight and with all of his fluids in him, basically walks around 170lbs-175lbs.

Rather than Alvarez only sweating down only 8lbs, you envision a 5'8 Alvarez bulking up another 10lbs-15lbs, to then put his body through boiling down nearly 20 pounds.

and I'm the ****** one, lol

Yes, you are the ****** one. You can't even do basic math.

I said canelo would walk around at 180-185 fighting at 168. His actual walk around weight now is around 175 (or 170-175 whatever... you can't say 170 since he doesn't give his weight anymore)
If you do the math I'm telling you he would gain maximum 10 lbs.

but you end your post saying that I said he would bulk up another 10-15 lbs? where does the 15 come from? and putting his body through 20 pounds down? where the **** did that 20 come from?

Go to elementary school again before accusing people of being ******.

[Larry the boss]

Canelo beats him up

[Larry the boss]

Canelo is already fighting on about 180 lbs of bodyweight in fights agreed to be at 155 lbs. Imagine how heavy he would be at a fight agreed to be at 168 lbs. He could very well come in at 200 lbs. Abraham would be fighting a heavyweight here, but a heavyweight who is struggling against even light middleweights.

come in at 200?? LMFAO.. thats not how this works at all man

[jmrf4435]

A prime Abraham would KO canelo. Right now that would prob be a 50/50 fight. I would favor Abraham due to the weight

[Scipio2009]

Yes, you are the ****** one. You can't even do basic math.

I said canelo would walk around at 180-185 fighting at 168. His actual walk around weight now is around 175 (or 170-175 whatever... you can't say 170 since he doesn't give his weight anymore)
If you do the math I'm telling you he would gain maximum 10 lbs.

but you end your post saying that I said he would bulk up another 10-15 lbs? where does the 15 come from? and putting his body through 20 pounds down? where the **** did that 20 come from?

Go to elementary school again before accusing people of being ******.

Let me try this slowly, once last time, and hope that you get it:

If Canelo Alvarez, when fighting fit, is already 170-175lbs, what benefit does he get from bulking up further when he could still simply come to the ring fighting fit and compete with Abraham (who after spending the bulk of his career at 160, is already basically just stepping into the ring, fighting fit, to make 168)?

Arthur Abraham is all of 5'9 (which likely means he's closer to 5'7). How heavy do you earnestly believe that Arthur Abraham walks into the ring at? lol

[BrometheusBob.]

Abraham probably wins. A bit too big for Canelo don't ya think?

[TheBoxingXpert]

Abraham probably wins. A bit too big for Canelo don't ya think?

Canelo is bigger than Abraham.

[Beercules]

Abraham woops his ass.