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  • New England
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    #61
    Originally posted by bambam182
    nice excuses, but wrong. besides what about those special shakes ariza gave pac that roach admitted even he was su****ious to.

    explain pacs hard punching power back in 2009-2010 then all of a sudden its gone. roach did admit pac hurt his arm in 2008. explains when he started juicing. fact is, pac-tards still consider pac undefeated. the GGG fans are not far behind the pac-tards.



    excuses?

    did you even read the post?

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    • boliodogs
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      #62
      I don't think he ever fought a prime all time great. I know he is a great fighter but who would this prime all time great that he fought be?

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        #63
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        he didnt beat any...me
        & end thread.

        Thanks for playing..

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          #64
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I don't think he ever fought a prime all time great. I know he is a great fighter but who would this prime all time great that he fought be?



          sounds liek they're making the argument that it is diego corrales

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            #65
            Originally posted by New England
            sounds liek they're making the argument that it is diego corrales
            BUT DER WASNT ANY ONE FOR HIM TO BEAT DOE

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              #66
              Originally posted by mlac
              BUT DER WASNT ANY ONE FOR HIM TO BEAT DOE
              that's kind of true

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                #67
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                I don't think he ever fought a prime all time great. I know he is a great fighter but who would this prime all time great that he fought be?
                why be disingenuous?

                For example, when threads pop up about GGG's resume you point out Sergio, Cotto and Canelo all refused to fight him. That is accurate and fair. Why not do the same here?

                Why not be accurate and fair and point out the fact that Manny, shane and ODH all refused to fight Floyd when they were prime?

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                  #68
                  In regards to) Diego Corrales – Corrales was undefeated with a high KO ratio, but he never beat ONE elite fighter in his entire career. Somehow, people think that because the pound for pound rankings listed him highly, he was a dangerous and great opponent. That is far from the truth. The rankings at the time were ridiculously inaccurate. Corrales was listed right behind Roy Jones, and ahead of Bernard Hopkins and Lennox Lewis. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how beating the likes of Robert Garcia, Juuko, and Manfredy can make you better than Bernard Hopkins and Lennox Lewis. An undefeated record with a high KO ratio in a weak division. Instead of being blind sheep believing everything the flawed ranking system says, it is easy to see that Corrales was a hype job when putting his career in context. He NEVER beat one elite fighter. He lost to Casamayor, and only beat him with a controversial decision. He was KOd by Jose Luis Castillo in a mere 4 rounds. A journeyman in Joshua Clottey easily outboxed him. If he was as good as people falsely make him out to be, he wouldn’t fail so often.
                  Last edited by 1g5a22; 06-08-2016, 09:52 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    why be disingenuous?

                    For example, when threads pop up about GGG's resume you point out Sergio, Cotto and Canelo all refused to fight him. That is accurate and fair. Why not do the same here?

                    Why not be accurate and fair and point out the fact that Manny, shane and ODH all refused to fight Floyd when they were prime?
                    ^^^^^shane moved up to fight ODLH in the early 2000s, then in 06 it was a tooth ache


                    its cause he doesnt like Mayweather but when you ask...."has there been a fighter outside of GGG who is top 3 p4p without wins over elite fighters?"

                    they get real quiet

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by 1g5a22
                      In regards to) Diego Corrales – Corrales was undefeated with a high KO ratio, but he never beat ONE elite fighter in his entire career. Somehow, people think that because the pound for pound rankings listed him highly, he was a dangerous and great opponent. That is far from the truth. The rankings at the time were ridiculously inaccurate. Corrales was listed right behind Roy Jones, and ahead of Bernard Hopkins and Lennox Lewis. I’m sorry, but I don’t see how beating the likes of Robert Garcia, Juuko, and Manfredy can make you better than Bernard Hopkins and Lennox Lewis. An undefeated record with a high KO ratio in a weak division. Instead of being blind sheep believing everything the flawed ranking system says, it is easy to see that Corrales was a hype job when putting his career in context. He NEVER beat one elite fighter. He lost to Casamayor, and only beat him with a controversial decision. He was KOd by Jose Luis Castillo in a mere 4 rounds. A journeyman in Joshua Clottey easily outboxed him. If he was as good as people falsely make him out to be, he wouldn’t fail so often against average competition.
                      he ended his career and life with wins over elite opponents

                      so you mean to tell me Castillo wasnt elite? 2 time lightweight champion and either 1-3 at the weight for 5 years

                      Freitas wasnt elite?

                      casamayor wasnt elite?

                      all these dudes were the best in a deep era at 130-135

                      lay off the crack


                      were you even watching boxing then?

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