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  • BennyBlanco
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    #81
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Mayweather-Pacquiao, adding in all of the revenues from all of the revenue streams, likely generated $1b on the fight alone ($500m on the PPV, over $70m on the live gate, over $5m from Tecate for the center-ring logo(over $13m in total event sponsors), closed circuit across the MGM Resorts properties, international TV rights, etc)
    May-Pac generated about $450MM from U.S. PPV and about $600M worldwide from all sources.

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    • El Gitano
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      #82
      Originally posted by BennyBlanco
      This is a bad translation.

      That figure is an estimate of what Canelo will produce in the future, not what he already produced between 2010 and 2016.

      http://laesquinaneutral.com/canelo-y...r-27-millones/
      Wow,that was a really bad translation on everything.

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      • Mitchell Kane
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        #83
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        With Alvarez on the cusp of crossing over to the Latin American audience, Golden Boy swooped in and took their star from them.
        That wasn't all Alvarez might've been on the cusp of....

        1/17/2010:

        Arum, Zabala to meet in NYC

        Top Rank chief Bob Arum and promoter Tuto Zabala, Jr. of All Star Boxing will meet this week in New York to discuss the possibility of working together with Mexico’s hottest current prospect Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. “Canelo” who is currently rated #4 WBC, #5 WBO and #7 WBA has become a huge idol in Mexico, fighting exclusively on TV giant Televisa in Mexico and selling out arenas throughout the country. At only 19 years old, he has compiled an undefeated record of 30-0-1, 22 KOs, winning the WBA FEDECENTRO, WBO Latin, NABF and WBC Youth world titles in the process. “Its time for “Canelo” to invade the US market,” said his promoter Zabala. “He has already fought on Telemundo but we want him to become the biggest PPV attraction. He has all the tools to make it. We believe he’s ready to take on the best of his division like Manny Paquiao, Miguel Cotto and others.” If a deal is reached, Alvarez could be included on the March 13 PPV show at the Dallas Cowboys Stadium where Manny Paquiao will face Joshua Clottey.
        http://www.*********.com/Boxing/arum...t-in-nyc-35193

        1/22/2010:

        Golden Boy signs Alvarez

        Golden Boy landed Alvarez -- who Tuto Zabala Jr. claims to have a contract with -- while Zabala and Golden Boy rival Top Rank were in talks to do a co-promotional deal, which would have commenced with Alvarez fighting on the Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey HBO PPV undercard on March 13 at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas, where Top Rank believed he would draw many Mexican fans.

        However, Golden Boy closed the deal, and De La Hoya sounded awfully pleased to beat Top Rank.
        http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4851090

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        • QballLobo
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          #84
          Not a good look for Golden Boy.
          I think it will come down to this small promotional outfit getting a more than token percentage on Canelo's fights for the next few years. Probably in the 10-20% range.

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          • Scipio2009
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            #85
            Originally posted by BennyBlanco
            May-Pac generated about $450MM from U.S. PPV and about $600M worldwide from all sources.
            Last mention on the Maayweather-Pacquiao event was that the US PPV numbers were well over 4.5m US PPV buys, with 5m being within distance. There are al lot of numbers that are unknown. but the live gate was over $70m, the total event sponsors were almost $15m, and massive TV rates fees were paid out in the UK (BoxNation vs Sky Sports) and Mexico (TV Azteca vs Televisa), with a meaningful amount of money paid out in the Philippines (all of the companies joining together on the bid), not to mention the other markets that carried the fight (the fight was carried on PPV in Canada, Australia, and Puerto Rico, in addition to being broadcast in over 50 countries, with countless other countries carrying the broadcasts from channels airing the event).

            You add up the numbers that are generally viewed as being accurate and made available to the public, and you're already well over $600m (and that's not even getting into the various closed circuit revenues picked up by Mayweather-Pacquiao being made exclusive to MGM Resorts).

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            • Scipio2009
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              #86
              Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
              That wasn't all Alvarez might've been on the cusp of....

              1/17/2010:

              Arum, Zabala to meet in NYC



              http://www.*********.com/Boxing/arum...t-in-nyc-35193

              1/22/2010:

              Golden Boy signs Alvarez



              http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4851090
              lol, Golden Boy's ****ed then, ha. If All Star Boxing's plan was to truly leverage their 19-year old wunderkind into establishing their promotional company as a viable top entity in the US and Mexico, Golden Boy is for sure on the hook for the full $80m in total damages.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #87
                This is why I never listen to sports reporters on their accounts on what is going on in a court room. All these guys don't know shyt. Golden boy beat the case and canelo only found liable for 8m which he will appeal and likely settle for a fraction of that. Got idiots saying golden boy gone be forced to 80m and they will fold and all this craziness HAHAHA

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                • OctoberRed
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  This is why I never listen to sports reporters on their accounts on what is going on in a court room. All these guys don't know shyt. Golden boy beat the case and canelo only found liable for 8m which he will appeal and likely settle for a fraction of that. Got idiots saying golden boy gone be forced to 80m and they will fold and all this craziness HAHAHA
                  To do an appeal they have to front 150% of the judgement, over 12 million. A lot of companies say "I will appeal" and then don't because of further expenses. Considering they didn't exactly make that much money this year as a company, an 8 million hit is quite expensive.

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by OctoberRed
                    To do an appeal they have to front 150% of the judgement, over 12 million. A lot of companies say "I will appeal" and then don't because of further expenses. Considering they didn't exactly make that much money this year as a company, an 8 million hit is quite expensive.
                    Numerous outlets already reporting that they are appealing. They going to tie this up in court and these fools will settle to avoid more legal fees and risk of getting nothing. Canelo and golden boy have more money then them and can play this out as long as it takes.

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                    • OctoberRed
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      Numerous outlets already reporting that they are appealing. They going to tie this up in court and these fools will settle to avoid more legal fees and risk of getting nothing. Canelo and golden boy have more money then them and can play this out as long as it takes.
                      They reported it because Golden Boy said they were. They also said Zabala had to pay their legal fees which turns out is a lie.

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