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  • #31
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    Yep. And that other fighter had more pro experience than Oscar at the same age.
    Canelo was green doe....Floyd drained him doe!!! lol

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    • #32
      Chavez was waaaaaaaay past prime when he fought Oscar.

      I think prime Chavez beats De La Hoya at 130 and 135.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by larryxxx... View Post
        I will say this, at 33 with only 1 loss Chavez was called shot when Oscar fought him while he was 23....amazing how things change when a fighter at 36 beats a 23 year old who was bigger and 45-0
        canelo was green doe.....floyd was old doe...der...oh wait

        kmsl

        its rare to see a past prime great, put in a performance like may vs nelo....imo that was his best performance since his return in 09

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        • #34
          Originally posted by larryxxx... View Post
          I will say this, at 33 with only 1 loss Chavez was called shot when Oscar fought him while he was 23....amazing how things change when a fighter at 36 beats a 23 year old who was bigger and 45-0
          how the fuck are you gonna compare chavez to floyd???? this is what im talking about with the floyd fans. they want to ignored the fact that a fighter has been in wars almost all his fights and they wanna compare that with floyd saying floyd is older but why is the younger fighter being label as shot.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by larryxxx... View Post
            I will say this, at 33 with only 1 loss Chavez was called shot when Oscar fought him while he was 23....amazing how things change when a fighter at 36 beats a 23 year old who was bigger and 45-0
            chavez has been in wars, his style is meant for this. floyd on the other hand is very defensive and hardly ever engage in a war. this is why a younger fighter can be called shot BEFORE an older fighter.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by WSSD View Post
              how the fuck are you gonna compare chavez to floyd???? this is what im talking about with the floyd fans. they want to ignored the fact that a fighter has been in wars almost all his fights and they wanna compare that with floyd saying floyd is older but why is the younger fighter being label as shot.
              all of chavez fights were not wars and half his fights were against no names.

              The only grueling fights he had were Taylor, Whitaker, Rosario, Laporte, and Lockridge by that point

              and a couple of these fights he was outboxed not in a drag out war.


              soon as a great fighter loses, insert excuse


              Oscar was all wrong for Chavez....too much speed, power, jab, reach

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              • #37
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                all of chavez fights were not wars and half his fights were against no names.

                The only grueling fights he had were Taylor, Whitaker, Rosario, Laporte, and Lockridge by that point

                and a couple of these fights he was outboxed not in a drag out war.


                soon as a great fighter loses, insert excuse


                Oscar was all wrong for Chavez....too much speed, power, jab, reach
                Did I said all his fights were wars? Hella reaching here. Insert excuse? For what? Chavez had well over 90 fights when he fought Oscar, how the fuck would anyone try to argue that he wasn't well pass his prime? You can be 23, if you've been into 90+ pro fights your body and mind will not be the same as a regular 23 person. I'm not here to debate that Chavez would of won, I don't care about that, I'm just pointing out that you can't compare Floyd with Chavez.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Santa_ View Post
                  Chavez was waaaaaaaay past prime when he fought Oscar.

                  I think prime Chavez beats De La Hoya at 130 and 135.
                  That's the point look at the size difference you are talking about. Oscar won world titles at Jr Middleweight (154) and Middleweight (160) and his prime weight probably was 147. Highest weight Chavez won was 140. Oscar was never a 130lb fighter turned pro at 135 then cut weight to make 130 twice as a teenager. won a 130 title defended it once and vacated it less then 4 months after he won it to move back up to his natural 135 weight at that time. So it would of been physically impossible for the fight to happen at 130. Oscar became a man at 135 cleaned out the entire division moved up facing one tuneup then fought at Chavez's best weight at the time 140.

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                  • #39
                    At 135 Oscar was more dominate then he was at 140. At 135 or 140 Chavez stands no chance against Oscar who was just way too big. Nobody could hurt Oscar at 135 or 140 hell bigger punchers at 154 couldn't dent his chin no chance a small 135 Chavez will. And he damn sure couldn't outbox Oscar look at the fighters that Chavez struggled with. Oscar boxes his ears off no matter when they fight and Chavez can't hurt him. People forget how devastating Oscar was at that weight coming into that fight Oscar was 21-0, 19 of those wins were by KO only 2 went to a decision and one of those was a 8 round fight where he dropped the guy twice if it were a 10 round fight he would of had 20 KO's in 21 fights. Only 1 fighter heading into Chavez didn't taste the canvas or got KOd. After the Chavez win 9 of Oscar's 10 championship fights at that time ended in KO, and 7 of those fighters didn't last 4 rounds. He was GGG level knocking everybody out. And he wasn't beating bums. Chavez was his 7th world champ he defeated up to that point. Almost double the amount that GGG has faced and he's 34. Oscar was ONLY 23.

                    Please tell me how Chavez wins this fight against Oscar? He who was bigger, longer, stronger, iron chin that fighters 20 pounds bigger couldn't crack, and oh yeah he's also faster with more boxing skill. It was a nightmare matchup no matter what point in Chavez career he would of faced Oscar.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by WSSD View Post
                      how the fuck are you gonna compare chavez to floyd???? this is what im talking about with the floyd fans. they want to ignored the fact that a fighter has been in wars almost all his fights and they wanna compare that with floyd saying floyd is older but why is the younger fighter being label as shot.
                      So we are going to knock Floyd for having better defense and taking less punishment?

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