Should there be a Super Heavyweight division?

[Weltschmerz]

We already have too many divisions.. HW is fun as it is when you get fights like Cunningham-Fury it's only adds to the popularity of the sport.

[soul_survivor]

If your over about 235. What about moving the Cruiserweight limit up?

No, there is no need for it. A skilled heavyweight is always going to be a big guy anyway and can beat lesser skilled, bigger guys.

What we need, is more skilled heavyweights, not more divisions.

[original zero]

Here is the problem with a "super heavyweight" division . . .

It ruins the heavyweight championship of the world. The heavyweight champion of the world is the champion of boxing. The #1 boxer on the planet. The credibility of and affinity for that title should not be compromised.

You could just as easily add a super cruiserweight division instead or make up a name for a new weight class.

But heavyweight should always be the heaviest.

[juggernaut666]

The weight class should definately be altered . Most seem to be going on yesteryear here ,the Cruiser weight division was created when HW"S averaged around 210 pounds .They are averaging about 235 now and practically no one CURRENT is below 225 . Its a complete waste of space anyway let alone making it a disadvantage for smaller Hw's . Anything below 225 should be Light heavy weight ,get rid of the cruiser weight division it only adds to the confusion of many classes itself ...200 to 224 would be practical as a light HW class ! Rejust anything you need to below 200 .

The heavyweight division of 225 above is realistically up to date and you can simplify things with just LHW and HW .The true natural HW's will still be there it wouldn't change anything ,those guys bordering the 220 mark could make that decision themselves who feel going over 224 is for them........ take a look at the rankings this really shouldn't be hard to figure out we are going by over 3 decades of out dated demographs with the weight differane of the 80's of what it is now . When 90% of the top 100 guys are over 225 something needs to be altered either way!

Between the Champions themselves the weights are ....

Fury 250 / 260
Wilder 230 / 235
Joshua 240 / 250
Ortiz 240 / 245

The cruiser weight division is simply not needed anymore . Theres enough Fighters over 225 who can actually fight exist now and make up the vast majority of HW's to make the class higher , The old eras where 190 pounder fighting a 210 pounder is not huge weight differance anymore its the 220 guy fighting the 250 guy ,both are 30 pounds difference for example but 210 is not considered big at all anymore . Boxing should alter the HW class or create a SHW class but it will do neither bc unlike other practical sports it would rather keep the old school blue print for nostalgic purpose and its NOT practical and a modern HW class that starts at 200 when no one fights at even 215 anymore certainly no one of relevance and trying to justify it with saying guys will just cut to cruiser weight still makes it a waste of space .

[Fury4daWIN]

No, just cap the heavyweight limit to 250 to weed out all the fatties and circus freaks.

[Fury4daWIN]

The weight class should definately be altered . Most seem to be going on yesteryear here ,the Cruiser weight division was created when HW"S averaged around 210 pounds .They are averaging about 235 now and practically no one CURRENT is below 225 . Its a complete waste of space anyway let alone making it a disadvantage for smaller Hw's . Anything below 225 should be Light heavy weight ,get rid of the cruiser weight division it only adds to the confusion of many classes itself ...200 to 224 would be practical as a light HW class ! Rejust anything you need to below 200 .

The heavyweight division of 225 above is realistically up to date and you can simplify things with just LHW and HW .The true natural HW's will still be there it wouldn't change anything ,those guys bordering the 220 mark could make that decision themselves who feel going over 224 is for them........ take a look at the rankings this really shouldn't be hard to figure out we are going by over 3 decades of out dated demographs with the weight differane of the 80's of what it is now . When 90% of the top 100 guys are over 225 something needs to be altered either way!

Between the Champions themselves the weights are ....

Fury 250 / 260
Wilder 230 / 235
Joshua 240 / 250
Ortiz 240 / 245

The cruiser weight division is simply not needed anymore . Theres enough Fighters over 225 who can actually fight exist now and make up the vast majority of HW's to make the class higher , The old eras where 190 pounder fighting a 210 pounder is not huge weight differance anymore its the 220 guy fighting the 250 guy ,both are 30 pounds difference for example but 210 is not considered big at all anymore . Boxing should alter the HW class or create a SHW class but it will do neither bc unlike other practical sports it would rather keep the old school blue print for nostalgic purpose and its NOT practical and a modern HW class that starts at 200 when no one fights at even 215 anymore certainly no one of relevance and trying to justify it with saying guys will just cut to cruiser weight still makes it a waste of space .

How about the fact that the cruiserweight division is fcuking awesome, and a stacked division in its own right?

[Motorcity Cobra]

No. But maybe the cruiserweight limit should be moved up to around 215-220?

[original zero]

No, just cap the heavyweight limit to 250 to weed out all the fatties and circus freaks.

it's not a body building contest. it's a fight.

if you put a limit, you may never find out who the baddest man on the planet is.

the heavyweight champion of the world is the champion of boxing. period. can't have a weight limit and still be the champion of the entire sport.

light heavyweight = wnba.

welterweight = little league world series.

featherweight = wheelchair tennis.

flyweight = senior citizen bowling.


divisions are a marketing gimmick to prop up up inferior athletes.

the heavyweight championship of the world is the grandest prize in sport and if there is a weight limit, it becomes just as much of a joke as any other artificial restriction.

[BlakBread904]

divisions are a marketing gimmick to prop up up inferior athletes.

What? That's like saying Roy Jones is an inferior athlete compared to Butterbean simply because RJJ fought at a lower division (in terms of weight). You have the reasoning skills of an infant. Divisions are in place to give men of various sizes a space to compete against men of similar size.

[Fury4daWIN]

it's not a body building contest. it's a fight.

if you put a limit, you may never find out who the baddest man on the planet is.

the heavyweight champion of the world is the champion of boxing. period. can't have a weight limit and still be the champion of the entire sport.

the heavyweight championship of the world is the grandest prize in sport and if there is a weight limit, it becomes just as much of a joke as any other artificial restriction.

You're right, it isn't a bodybuilding contest, so no need for 260lbs muscle freaks waddling around with their GH guts hanging over their shorts.

There is no fighter in the top ten today who cannot get below 250lbs if they wanted to. Fury's at the upper limit, but even he can weigh in in the 240s when he puts the effort in.

The only fighter in recent years who could never have made 250 if his life depended on it was Valuev, and no one would have missed anything if that guy wasn't around.