Did Floyd show a genuine relucantance..

[The Big Dunn]

For a poster who joined in 2008 you show a complete lack of knowledge. I get you want to crap on Floyd but at least do it in an intelligent way that shows you joined this site because you are a fan of the sport.

Tim Bradley said he wasn't chasing a Floyd fight when he signed with TR. Thats why that fight didn't happen. williams lost to Quintana when Floyd was "retired" and had gone up to 154 by the time Floyd came back. Floyd fought Maidana and Manny, both ranked higher than Thurman at the time he fought them.

He could've fought Thurman in his last fight. Not fighting him surely isn't a big deal, but it would've been better than Berto. Or were you expecting floyd to fight him earlier than this?

[deathofaclown]

Come on now.. Corrales? Latino fighter tailor made for a slick boxer like Floyd..

Bradley & Williams were probably his two main prime US rivals really. When I say reluctance to fight his US rivals.. I should be more specific. The slicker & more athletic kind. Once he went black (Judah) he barely went back!

The same Tim Bradley who was fighting at 140lbs and never won a world title even won a title at 140 until Mayweather had already been to 154 then back to 147? Come on, you need to do better than that. Bradley's nearest thing to a rival back then were guys like Alexander and Peterson. He's only been fighting at Welterweight for 4 years now. There was nobody ever calling for that fight.

You can't just be selective with names and ignore certain fights that happened too or re-write history to the point where things that weren't even being talked about then seem important now.

It's like people who say Calzaghe should have fought Froch. The reality is that Froch was unknown and fighting in European title fights when Calzaghe was retiring. It's just wasn't even a fight that made sense at the time but people just make things up like it would have been a big fight. Much like Bradley v Floyd, it was never much of a possibility or a fight anyone cared about. Hardly a rival.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Wasnt Mosley like number 1 p4p at that time?I can remember everyone saying he was scared of Mosley.

[FeFist]

You know there is another way of looking at things. De La Hoya and Mosley made Mayweather wait and they made him jump up the weight classes. Floyd was calling them out for years but he wasn't worth their time. He fought them out of his prime and above his natural weight. He walked with the Ws.

[Eff Pandas]

Yawn. If you are truly looking at this historically & without little f#cks to give Floyd positively or negatively you will see he was calling out Gatti since like 98 iirc & Mosley & ODLH a year or two after that. All those guys said f#ck Floyd cuz there was little reason to fight Floyd at that point. Rightfully so. Floyd slowly but surely moved up the ranks & become a guy that was more attractive as an opponent. He started getting the fights he was calling out & the huge fights he always wanted. When Floyd actually fought ODLH it was ODLH who made that decision for that fight to happen not Floyd. So there is no debate that Floyd avoided ODLH at all. Floyd wanted that fight since like 2000 or some nutty **** like that before they were even in the same division.

And virtually all fights got a lot more reasonable reasons for not happening then "he scared" if you know the true historical timeline & the realities that were going on at the time. This whole era is a difficult one to get big fights made since most of the big names got notable networks, promoters, managers or belts that can make fights much harder to make then at any point in boxing history.

That said I understand its more fun to **** on Floyd or Manny or others with this sorta bs then to say they fought about as good of an option as they could have for most of their primes to get to the heights they reached in the sport.

[johnm is...]

Wasnt Mosley like number 1 p4p at that time?I can remember everyone saying he was scared of Mosley.

yup.

People can say what they want to now, but there were posters who had to take to posting on their Alt accounts because of that Mosley fight.

There were guys screaming from the rooftops that Floyd was scared to death of Mosley. How "shook" he was when Mosley confronted him, etc.

'bout round 6 they started singing a different tune.

[Scipio2009]

To fight most of his main US rivals? All the other greats did..

-Mosley fought prime Oscar, Forrest, & Wright.

-SRL fought Hearns & Hagler.

-Oscar fought Hopkins & Mosley.

-Hopkins fought Wright, Joppy & Taylor.

-Jones fought Toney, Hopkins & Tarver.

Floyd fought Judah.

I know he fought Mosley & Oscar but they needed a piss bag by this point due to incontinence! Floyd is almost the Chad Dawson of WW's in this respect! Tim Bradley? Paul Williams? Keith Thurman? Why not?!

Floyd Mayweather Jr was calling out anyone and everyone when he beat Jose Luis Castillo for the belt twice; everyone 147 on down looked at Floyd, saw what he was doing to people, saw the potential money involved, and refused to even have management whisper about wanting that work.

Floyd takes 25/75 and the full 154 weight to face De La Hoya, whooped that ass, steps into the spot of cash cow, and now everybody and their grandpa is stepping out to fight Floyd.

[therealpugilist]

Floyd Mayweather Jr was calling out anyone and everyone when he beat Jose Luis Castillo for the belt twice; everyone 147 on down looked at Floyd, saw what he was doing to people, saw the potential money involved, and refused to even have management whisper about wanting that work.

Floyd takes 25/75 and the full 154 weight to face De La Hoya, whooped that ass, steps into the spot of cash cow, and now everybody and their grandpa is stepping out to fight Floyd.

you can tell when someone hasnt followed the sport very long....Mayweather was being ducked by many until he became a cash cow in 2007

young floyd at 130-140 was calling out anyone that was willing to fight from 130-154

I even had a ring magazine when he was lightweight champion and he said that he wanted to prove he could beat anyone in the world from 154 on down...that was like in 2003...I never thought he'd win titles at 140-154

he really showed how great he was the last ten years of his career.

[The Big Dunn]

yup.

People can say what they want to now, but there were posters who had to take to posting on their Alt accounts because of that Mosley fight.

There were guys screaming from the rooftops that Floyd was scared to death of Mosley. How "shook" he was when Mosley confronted him, etc.

'bout round 6 they started singing a different tune.

The only ones not changing their tunes were sleep from jerking themselves to death during round 2.

[ThatDude44]

Tim Bradley? Lol, what a great measuring stick and risk to take.