Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Golovkin, Thurman-Porter, Muhammad Ali

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen 'Breadman' Edwards to answer questions on Muhammad Ali, Gennady Golovkin, Keith Thurman vs. Shawn Porter and more.

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[Boxing Logic]

Weak **** Bread. You selectively ducked every interesting question in the first email. You even lacked self-awareness in an ironic moment where you say the question about Floyd paying Manny off to hide his own test results "will be a sports question in 20 years." Yeah, it will. It was also a question right now! Someone just asked you! And you ducked it using the phoney time excuse. You also ducked the Paulie Malignaggi comment because you have to deal with him in real life. That's at least understandable but you should be real about it instead of pretending that being pressed for time is the reason you had plenty of time to answer every non-controversial question, but magically didn't have time to answer all the interesting ones.

We expect better from you Bread. You're supposed to be a breath of fresh air, not playing the political game like everyone else.

[kafkod]

Weak **** Bread. You selectively ducked every interesting question in the first email. You even lacked self-awareness in an ironic moment where you say the question about Floyd paying Manny off to hide his own test results "will be a sports question in 20 years." Yeah, it will. It was also a question right now! Someone just asked you! And you ducked it using the phoney time excuse. You also ducked the Paulie Malignaggi comment because you have to deal with him in real life. That's at least understandable but you should be real about it instead of pretending that being pressed for time is the reason you had plenty of time to answer every non-controversial question, but magically didn't have time to answer all the interesting ones.

We expect better from you Bread. You're supposed to be a breath of fresh air, not playing the political game like everyone else.

I don't expect anything better from him. He is smarter and better at hiding his bias than most of the other American pundits, but he can't hide it completely.

Eg, he gives Golovkin respect and says he doesn't blame him for wanting a catchweight for Ward, because Ward is better than Froch and Chavez. But he ignores the real reason behind it ... Froch and Chavez were genuine cash cows. Ward has fewer fans than Golovkin but wanted 50% of the purse. K2 wanted him to concede something to GGG in return.

[Dreamking]

I don't expect anything better from him. He is smarter and better at hiding his bias than most of the other American pundits, but he can't hide it completely.

Eg, he gives Golovkin respect and says he doesn't blame him for wanting a catchweight for Ward, because Ward is better than Froch and Chavez. But he ignores the real reason behind it ... Froch and Chavez were genuine cash cows. Ward has fewer fans than Golovkin but wanted 50% of the purse. K2 wanted him to concede something to GGG in return.

He can't hide ****, I can smell the boner he gets from Ward. Dude went on forever about how great he is and how well he'll beat Kovalev.

[Bronx2245]

I don't expect anything better from him. He is smarter and better at hiding his bias than most of the other American pundits, but he can't hide it completely.

Eg, he gives Golovkin respect and says he doesn't blame him for wanting a catchweight for Ward, because Ward is better than Froch and Chavez. But he ignores the real reason behind it ... Froch and Chavez were genuine cash cows. Ward has fewer fans than Golovkin but wanted 50% of the purse. K2 wanted him to concede something to GGG in return.

But asking for a CW, and not fighting the best because of financial reasons is "business man" talk! GGG is not "business man!" Karma is a mother...

[kafkod]

But asking for a CW, and not fighting the best because of financial reasons is "business man" talk! GGG is not "business man!" Karma is a mother...

I know from your other posts that you are too ****** to see the difference between negotiating a fight with a man in a higher division and defending a title against the mandatory challenger in your own division.

And I don't remember GGG saying he wanted 50% of the purse for fighting Canelo and a couple of tune-ups before he would be ready for it.

[kafkod]

He can't hide ****, I can smell the boner he gets from Ward. Dude went on forever about how great he is and how well he'll beat Kovalev.

You have to say that Ward is great if you want to be involved in boxing in the States.

Like politicians in the UK have to swear allegiance to the Queen before they can sit in parliament, even if they are anti-monarchists and believe the whole institution is a pile of elitist bullshit.

[Eff Pandas]

Someone need to ask Bread if he's gonna do the Red & Bread podcast more often.

That **** is gold every time they get together, but they only did like 4 of them. Get into some deep ass subjects on there like Julian Williams saying he don't ever want a fight stopped, cuz if thats how he's supposed to go out, thats how he's supposed to go out. I got great respect for that ****. Its kinda f#cked, but beautiful at the same time if that makes any sense.

[Bronx2245]

I know from your other posts that you are too ****** to see the difference between negotiating a fight with a man in a higher division and defending a title against the mandatory challenger in your own division.

And I don't remember GGG saying he wanted 50% of the purse for fighting Canelo and a couple of tune-ups before he would be ready for it.

Canelo no longer has the WBC belt. GGG has the WBC belt. Now the path is clear for him to sacrifice 5lbs. without sacrificing his principles. Let's see what he does. When the e-mail FROM ROC NATION came to K2, it would've allowed GGG to fight Lemieux and Ward to fight ONE TUNE UP, and then Ward vs. GGG in early 2016. GGG allowed Canelo to fight ONE FIGHT before fighting him, and Canelo fought Khan. Why not allow Ward to fight ONE FIGHT, before fighting GGG? GGG chose to pursue Cotto and Canelo, because they were the better opponents FINANCIALLY. I agree with Bread: I don't blame GGG for making "BUSINESS DECISIONS." I just hate the hypocrisy of stating that others fight for BUSINESS, but GGG fights to prove he's the best from 154 - 168! You just posted that Bread didn't give the "REAL REASON" GGG only proposed a CW for Ward and not Froch or Chavez Jr. You then stated it was about which fighter was a bigger draw, and GGG deserved more than 50/50, etc. Those are "BUSINESS DECISIONS." All Bread and I are pointing out is that GGG is "BUSINESS MAN."

[kafkod]

Canelo no longer has the WBC belt. GGG has the WBC belt. Now the path is clear for him to sacrifice 5lbs. without sacrificing his principles. Let's see what he does. When the e-mail FROM ROC NATION came to K2, it would've allowed GGG to fight Lemieux and Ward to fight ONE TUNE UP, and then Ward vs. GGG in early 2016. GGG allowed Canelo to fight ONE FIGHT before fighting him, and Canelo fought Khan. Why not allow Ward to fight ONE FIGHT, before fighting GGG? GGG chose to pursue Cotto and Canelo, because they were the better opponents FINANCIALLY. I agree with Bread: I don't blame GGG for making "BUSINESS DECISIONS." I just hate the hypocrisy of stating that others fight for BUSINESS, but GGG fights to prove he's the best from 154 - 168! You just posted that Bread didn't give the "REAL REASON" GGG only proposed a CW for Ward and not Froch or Chavez Jr. You then stated it was about which fighter was a bigger draw, and GGG deserved more than 50/50, etc. Those are "BUSINESS DECISIONS." All Bread and I are pointing out is that GGG is "BUSINESS MAN."

You just highlighted another factor that Breadman completely ignored in his answer about GGG and Ward.

Golovkin already had a contract with Canelo, Cotto and the WBC, which covered the same time span as the one Roc asked him to sign. They were asking GGG to commit to fighting Ward in spring/summer of 2016, which was exactly when Golovkin expected to be fighting the winner of Cotto/Canelo for the WBC MW title.

Ward and Cotto have the same promoter, and when I read about the contract they sent to Loeffler, it made me wonder if it was part of some plan they were setting up to protect Cotto from GGG, if Miguel had beaten Canelo.