Comments Thread For: Muhammad Ali's Doctor Doubts Boxing Caused Ali's Parkinson's

[mapleleaf27]

Clay/Ali was no American hero and Clay was a bigoted man who actually hated America as a country. Not sure what the big deal about Clay is being made as the guy wouldn't defend his country when asked. The non American Clay should be treated not as a hero but as a good boxer who entertained the fans. But all in all Clay hated white people and for what America stood for. Clays religion hates also. Ignore the attention and honor those true American heroes who fought for and died for our Country. Those are the real heroes not big mouthed Clay.

Just shut the Fck up already. Your jealousy is so obvious. Does it bother YOU that much that you never accomplished anything in your life, while this BLACK man did so much inside and OUTSIDE the ring earning him accolades from politicians, ministers, priests, rabbis, athletes, actors, children...Just die already you angry bigot, I know its killing you inside , LET IT! I am willing to wager everything I have on a few things with you:
1. YOUR funeral will not be attended by over 25 000 people,
2. Major networks will not carry even one second of your funeral.
3. NOBODY will give a shyit the day you die.

[BrometheusBob.]

Hm, interesting. The Mayo Clinic doesn't list head injuries/trauma as causes or risk factors for Parkinson's.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20028488
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20028488

That being said, it seems unlikely to my non-medically inclined mind that receiving hundreds or thousands of blows to the head had no impact on his health. *shrug*

I wonder if there is any data on the rate of Parkinson's disease in boxers versus the general public?

EDIT: The Michael J. Fox foundation says that head injury is associated with a higher risk for Parkinson's disease but also says that there is not a 'definitive link' between the two.

https://www.michaeljfox.org/understanding-parkinsons/living-with-pd/topic.php?causes&navid=causes

[TheGreatA]

Ali's speech was starting to slur by his mid-30's. It's pretty clear that he sustained a lot of damage from boxing.

He may have been hard to hit, in his prime, but he was not hard to hit by the mid-70's. The Ali-Frazier fights are still among the most grueling wars ever fought in boxing history, and even by the late 70's, he was still taking bombs from boxers like Earnie Shavers, who hit as hard as anybody.

Another factor is that Ali was always willing to take punishment in sparring, in order to make himself more used to getting hit and fight through damage.

I'm pretty sure Freddie Roach's Parkinson's is also atleast partially caused by boxing.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Well, he is full of shiet imo...

Didnt read the article so if its another misleading headline ma bad.

You're an idiot. There's no real evidence that shows that blows to the head cause Parkinson's. Do your research before you speak. The doctor has no reason to cover for boxing.

Hm, interesting. The Mayo Clinic doesn't list head injuries/trauma as causes or risk factors for Parkinson's.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20028488
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20028488

That being said, it seems unlikely to my non-medically inclined mind that receiving hundreds or thousands of blows to the head had no impact on his health. *shrug*

I wonder if there is any data on the rate of Parkinson's disease in boxers versus the general public?

EDIT: The Michael J. Fox foundation says that head injury is associated with a higher risk for Parkinson's disease but also says that there is not a 'definitive link' between the two.
https://www.michaeljfox.org/understa...s&navid=causes

Like I said in the above post, if you search around you will see that there's no real evidence that leads to believe that blows to the head cause Parkinson's.

Just like your edit says.

[Sun_Tzu]

You're an idiot. There's no real evidence that shows that blows to the head cause Parkinson's. Do your research before you speak. The doctor has no reason to cover for boxing.

Like I said in the above post, if you search around you will see that there's no real evidence that leads to believe that blows to the head cause Parkinson's.

Just like your edit says.

Ha, look its one of them guys. Ali absorbs massive amounts of punishment to the head later on in his career and sadly as it turns out he could take it with out getting KOed. He was plainly slurring his speech at the end but yea that had nothing to do with the condition he had, you know the one with his brain. Its plainly obvious to anyone that can think for themselves and doesnt rely on someone else to do it for them that repeated blows to the head by 200lb + world class athletes might cause some problems down the line. Is it the only factor? I dont know. Maybe he would have come down with it anyway but to believe it didnt have anything to do with it is naive and to be honest is a slow mans way of thinking.

Here is an idea, go listen to Evander Holyfield, Thomas Hearns, James Toney or better yet Terry Norris. They all have a little bit or a lot of what Ali had going on and its just going to get worse for them.

[juggernaut666]

Science has improved ten fold since then....anyone with a brain wouldn't argue blows to the head is a MAJOR cause to forgetfulness and memory loss. I was in a crowded place today so I didn't hear the actual amount ,but the number of how many shots to the head ali took was astounding just from what I caught!

[Joe Beamish]

Wow. That doctor must have been smokin' some joe frazier

[Adonis Creed]

The blows might have made the effects show earlier in his life. Idk the stats but being in your 40s seems young for Parkinson's.

[sleazyfellow]

The blows might have made the effects show earlier in his life. Idk the stats but being in your 40s seems young for Parkinson's.

I'm surprised nobody has stated this yet in this thread....it's NOT parkinsons disease it's parkinsons syndrome!

He's not the only boxer to suffer from it either, but is the most known. The symptoms of it are very similar to parkinsons disease, the shaking, the speech. Repeated blows to the brain caused it, if he never came back in the early 70s I believe he would of been ok, those Frazier fights really messed him up, and of course those tough fights near the end hurt him even further.

[Fr3$h]

Stfu already. You hate Ali, we get it. Stop spreading your hate towards a man who stood for something more important than your overly patriotic self

What exactly did he stand for?

Practically anyone who was famous or had money weaseled out of the draft. Ali just used the racist sect of Islam he joined as a copout and hippies thought it was "counter-culture" enough to consider cool.

He wasn't a good person and seemed rather dense. He was just good at boxing. No matter how much you like boxing we all know deep down society is in a better place without people like him present.