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  • Jc8804
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    #1

    How do you rate fighters?

    Like whats a bum ? What is elite ?
    Is it like this↓↓

    Goat
    Alltime great
    Elite champion
    Top contender
    Gate keeper
    Prospect
    Rookie prospect



    Where does bum fit in ? Like for example...
    People say GGGs opponents are bums, yet they were all ranked .

    So where does bum fit in ?
  • Beercules
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    #2
    Mickey Rourke = Bum

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    • Jc8804
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      #3
      From what I see, I see a bunch fellas that wait for another guy to answer. Bunch of followers and no leaders.

      Its a simple question

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      • HeadBodyBodyBody
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        #4
        I rate them by attractiveness

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        • Jc8804
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          #5
          Bunch of cowards dont wanna get called out .

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          • TheUnbiased
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            #6
            What? Boxers are rated by skills obviously .

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            • Tony Trick-Pony
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              #7
              Originally posted by Jc8804
              Like whats a bum ? What is elite ?
              Is it like this↓↓

              Goat
              Alltime great
              Elite champion
              Top contender
              Gate keeper
              Prospect
              Rookie prospect



              Where does bum fit in ? Like for example...
              People say GGGs opponents are bums, yet they were all ranked .

              So where does bum fit in ?
              Just my opinion-

              Goat- Roberto Duran/Henry Armstrong/Willie Pep
              All time Great- Thomas Hearns/Jake LaMotta/Archie Moore
              Elite Champion- Orlando Canizales/Terry Norris/Carlos Palomino
              Top Contender- Jerry Quarry/David Tua/Lucas Matthysse(So far)
              Gatekeeper- Tony Thompson/Ricardo Mayorga/Robert Guerrero
              Prospect- Liam Smith, Errol Spence, Jr., Gilberto Ramirez
              Rookie Prospect- Deontay Wilder(jk, haha), David Benavidez, Radivoje Kaljdzic

              Some fans may say bums since the guys GGG is fighting don't appear to be on his level. They're right about that, but are they all out bums? Definitely not. They'd be competitive with most middleweights, but just seem so overmatched against him.

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              • lopetego
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                #8
                Originally posted by Jc8804
                Like whats a bum ? What is elite ?
                Is it like this↓↓

                Goat
                Alltime great
                Elite champion
                Top contender
                Gate keeper
                Prospect
                Rookie prospect



                Where does bum fit in ? Like for example...
                People say GGGs opponents are bums, yet they were all ranked .

                So where does bum fit in ?
                GOAT - the one guy with the best resume in boxing

                ATG
                - great fighters who have done enough against the backdrop of boxing history to be considered all time greats. Dominant champs and P4P'ers during their prime who have beaten other ATG's and HOFers, also in their prime. All of them are/were Elite


                Elite - world class fighters who usually hold belts and are TOP P4P material, they are the cream of the crop in boxing

                Top contender - world class fighter who hasn't won a championship yet, or maybe lost it, but can become relevant at any given time due to his skills and high division ranking

                Gatekeeper - usually washed up hasbeens or fighters who are good, but not good enough to become top contenders or elite

                Prospect - guy who lacks experience but has a lot of hype because he destroys bums and has shown good skills in doing it. He needs to step up

                rookie prospect - same as above, but even less experienced and with worse resume

                Bum - GGG's average opponent
                Last edited by lopetego; 06-05-2016, 09:37 PM.

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                • Aztekkas
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jc8804
                  Like whats a bum ? What is elite ?
                  Is it like this↓↓

                  Goat
                  Alltime great
                  Elite champion
                  Top contender
                  Gate keeper
                  Prospect
                  Rookie prospect



                  Where does bum fit in ? Like for example...
                  People say GGGs opponents are bums, yet they were all ranked .

                  So where does bum fit in ?

                  It's hard to have a concrete method of rating fighters, to be honest. Take Salido and his story for example, no one would have thought he would become a world champion and achieve what he has achieved in the sport. Look at Rocky Juarez and his career, the fighter who reeked of champion material in the beginning but never attained a world title. It may not be the case for all fighters but some times you come across these gems and fool's gold in the sport that will leave you scratching your head.

                  More often times than not followers of the sport can categorize fighters by watching them operate in a few fights and thus gauge their potential according to their own criteria. That's the thing about the sport, preferences in styles and such will lead into disputes over what fighter is worthy of being praised and which ones are not.

                  Personally I rate them on their overall skill, but I don't attempt to minimize their attributes nor do I discriminate styles because I'm aware of talent coming in all different types of shapes and forms. An elite fighter is one whom has an almost unbeatable aura to him when pitted against lesser opponents but is in a 50/50 situation when facing another elite name. However, spoilers do occur and a gatekeeper or journeyman can foil prospect dreams and championship reigns when taken lightly or getting caught by surprise.

                  All time greats are only defined in my book when a fighter's career is said and done or when the fighter is evidently in the tail end of his run. An elite fighter is one whom possess all the tools to beat anyone in his division. A top contender is a fighter whom beats gatekeepers and have proven their worth against like leveled opponents but have yet to be crowned champions. Gatekeepers are those whom seperate the "could be champions and contenders" from the prospects by imposing their experience. Of course the prospects are younger fighters whom lack the experience to challenge for titles or contenders but seem to have a bright future ahead of them. A bum would be a no hoper, a part time fighter whom doesn't have the talent, dedication or lacked the time to fully committ to the sport thus resulting in a horrendous resume and are used as stepping stones for the younger prospects to sharpen their tools.

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                  • R_Walken
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                    #10
                    It's a inexact science but I give them letter grades.

                    A - Multiple World Champ, best in a deep division, Ws over legit threats or other legit World Champs. Break it up with +/- depending on who they lose to or when they fought them . Like Mayweathers A+ but I might put Cotto at A

                    B - Usually a World Champ status, beats most names but consistently falls short against the A's . Might rate them B+ if they earned a strap and beat some legit names. I might give - if they won a vacant defended it against no hopers lost to first serious threat. I'd rate Paulie M as a solid B, Geale might be a B , B-

                    C - Contender who's been in championship fights yet always comes up short but they usually win the fights until a straps involved . Same thing might get a + if they showed a good accord of themselves or a - if they always get blasted out
                    Martin Murray might be B- , C+ range, Rosado might be a C , C- range

                    D - Fighter most likely will lose to every decent contender / Prospect they face and will lose to other No name fighters occasionally . Probably never earn a chance at a belt

                    E - A professional boxer that bats around .500 against other E class fighters

                    F - Stepoing stone for legit boxers just getting into the game.

                    Like I said not exact but it is what is

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