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  • #61
    Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
    The question lingers why did he fight as many years at middleweight then?
    It took a public shaming for him to MAYBE be set to finally acknowledge that If he is a Jr Middleweight that he needs to weigh 154lbs.
    Damn you are dumb. Then why did trout spend as many years at middleweight? He fought the last 2 years fighting higher then canelo and spent damn half his career in non title fights above 154 yet your ****** azz is NOT calling trout a middleweight. Why because he's not one he is a Jr middleweight who if he doesn't have to make weight for a title fight fights a few pounds over 154. It's really pretty simple to understand idiot. And laughing at you thinking you are shaming a fighter to do anything.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
      You fight the best of your own weight division simple as that the situations aren't in comparison, Canelo is a middleweight and he has held middleweight gold how can you blame GGG for wanting to only come up to 168 for the two biggest draws of the division?
      People move up for lucrative fights Froch and Chavez are both that as is GGG vs Canelo a lucrative fight but its a fight that requires NEITHER person to move up.
      Canelo has fought at a maximum weight of 155, once again that is a catchweight, not middleweight. He won the belt as a by product of beating Cotto, also at a maximum weight of 155.

      In order for Golovkin-Canelo to happen, Canelo would have to move up. Just like Golovkin would have to for Ward.

      Canelo is not moving up for anybody. Golovkin will move up, but only for certain guys...I find it strange that people only have a problem with the first guy in that scenario.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
        Canelo has fought at a maximum weight of 155, once again that is a catchweight, not middleweight. He won the belt as a by product of beating Cotto, also at a maximum weight of 155.

        In order for Golovkin-Canelo to happen, Canelo would have to move up. Just like Golovkin would have to for Ward.

        Canelo is not moving up for anybody. Golovkin will move up, but only for certain guys...I find it strange that people only have a problem with the first guy in that scenario.
        Canelo is already in the middleweight division though, why has he fought the last five fights at 155lbs?
        IF he can make 154lbs why has he done this for the past five fights it makes absolutely no sense at all and yes Cotto at catchweight If you want to make an argument for a dude not being a middleweight then you have a legitimate excuse for Cotto who looked absolutely tiny in comparison to Canelo when they fought.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
          Which one of the named fighters is fighting at his own made up weight class?? Oh that's right none. See you don't get it. It's the fact that Can'tNelo made up his own weight class. It has nothing to do with fight night weight. Almost all fighters drain themselves to make a certain weight then blow up in weight that's not the issue the issue is he doesn't have the balls to fight at the MW limit and ******s are saying he isn't a MW. Yet he can't make 154. That last pound is a big deal. If Can'tNelo was fighting at 154 and ballooning up to 175 then fawk it he is making the sacrifice and making weight. But he isn't he is hiding at 155. If GGG wasn't at MW I guarantee you Can'tNelo would be at 160 already
          So because your dumb is too ****** to see all the other fighters who do the same thing it's different? Trout last 2 years before charlo fought all his opponents at 156 or 157, just because there wasn't a nickname like troutweight don't make it different. All those years Manny won belts and defended them at catch weight. Floyd won belts at catchweight and defended them at catchweight. Cotto won and defended belts at catchweight. And if canelo was fighting at 155 long before anyone was bringing up ggg name and is still fighting at 155 why do you think it has a damn thing to do with GGG?

          It ain't like he said my next fight is against fighter A at 160 but if ggg wants to fight me has to be 155. That's ggg who does crap like that says I'll fighter guys at 154 or 168 then when fighters call his bluff no I will fight Manny and Floyd at 154 but canelo has to be 160 because catch weights are not fair. I will fight Chavez or froch at 168 bit ward has to be at a catchweight of 164. Oh wait I thought ggg don't like catchweight. F in fraud hypocrite.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
            Canelo has fought at a maximum weight of 155, once again that is a catchweight, not middleweight. He won the belt as a by product of beating Cotto, also at a maximum weight of 155.

            In order for Golovkin-Canelo to happen, Canelo would have to move up. Just like Golovkin would have to for Ward.

            Canelo is not moving up for anybody. Golovkin will move up, but only for certain guys...I find it strange that people only have a problem with the first guy in that scenario.
            Nope 155 is middleweight. Anything over 154 and under 160 is mw.

            And of course people will criticize the guy who won't fight at the full division limit more than the guy who is.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
              Damn you are dumb. Then why did trout spend as many years at middleweight? He fought the last 2 years fighting higher then canelo and spent damn half his career in non title fights above 154 yet your ****** azz is NOT calling trout a middleweight. Why because he's not one he is a Jr middleweight who if he doesn't have to make weight for a title fight fights a few pounds over 154. It's really pretty simple to understand idiot. And laughing at you thinking you are shaming a fighter to do anything.
              Yes nine + years ago counts as the present when Trout was 20 years old and not fully matured do you know anything about growing up as your body matures you tend to become bigger obviously you wouldn't know much about that because you don't do any physical exercise.

              The point is Trout has made the weight and hasn't had 3 years of catchweight fights he has made the weight and every time and he hasn't dropped a middleweight title like a diva.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
                Canelo is already in the middleweight division though, why has he fought the last five fights at 155lbs?
                IF he can make 154lbs why has he done this for the past five fights it makes absolutely no sense at all and yes Cotto at catchweight If you want to make an argument for a dude not being a middleweight then you have a legitimate excuse for Cotto who looked absolutely tiny in comparison to Canelo when they fought.
                Then trout has already been fighting for years in middleweight too yet you ain't crying for him to fight ggg and calling him a middleweight you clown. Lemieux has fought half his career a few pounds above 160 for non title fights is he a super middleweight and has to fight at 168? And I can go on and on pointing to other examples but you too ******ed to see that nothing going canelo is doing is new. Canelo, trout, lemiuex, Spence none of these guys make weight unless it's for a title fight, title eliminator to get a title ect. Spence last swpt fought at 156. So is technically a middleweight too clown boy? 13 of his career 20 fights fought above 147 so is he not a welterweight? Or is he a welterweight and will make 147 weight when he feels like he has to just like canelo who doesn't have to make 154 so hasnt. He is bigger then any belt and when the day comes he wants another belt at 154 he will.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
                  Yes nine + years ago counts as the present when Trout was 20 years old and not fully matured do you know anything about growing up as your body matures you tend to become bigger obviously you wouldn't know much about that because you don't do any physical exercise.

                  The point is Trout has made the weight and hasn't had 3 years of catchweight fights he has made the weight and every time and he hasn't dropped a middleweight title like a diva.
                  So trout is BIGGER then canelo as a kid and only made weight when he had to his entire career. And trout ONLYmade weight his last fight a few weeks ago for a title fight. The 2 years prior he fought strictly at catchweight 156 and 157 so clown boy why don't NOBODY call trout a middleweight? If canelo fights his next fight at 154 what the f is different?

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                  • #69
                    If you egged the average guy on the street into a fight there's a chance they'd do it.

                    If you offered them $1,000 for that fight it's very likely they'd do it.

                    $10,000, practically guaranteed.

                    Canelo has been training his whole life to fight. He's being offered millions of dollars. He still says no. runs out of excuses. Just says flat out "no" to fighting GGG.

                    He is a cowardly person. Not all boxers are brave warriors laying it on the line blah blah etc. Canelo is more cowardly than the average dude on the street. He's a chicken****. Deserves only mockery.

                    Fighting Amir Khan for a MW title was the icing on the cake. Doesn't even have a sense of shame.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                      Then trout has already been fighting for years in middleweight too yet you ain't crying for him to fight ggg and calling him a middleweight you clown. Lemieux has fought half his career a few pounds above 160 for non title fights is he a super middleweight and has to fight at 168? And I can go on and on pointing to other examples but you too ******ed to see that nothing going canelo is doing is new. Canelo, trout, lemiuex, Spence none of these guys make weight unless it's for a title fight, title eliminator to get a title ect. Spence last swpt fought at 156. So is technically a middleweight too clown boy? 13 of his career 20 fights fought above 147 so is he not a welterweight? Or is he a welterweight and will make 147 weight when he feels like he has to just like canelo who doesn't have to make 154 so hasnt. He is bigger then any belt and when the day comes he wants another belt at 154 he will.
                      lol damn going in. Its like rocket science to these fckng idiots.

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