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Originally posted by j0zef View PostAwesome. Except:
-Lara is not linear champ anywhere.
-Lara is "a" champ in a lower division.
-Lara doesn't bring millions. As a matter of fact, the reason K2 went with Monroe instead of Lara originally was because Lara WANTED millions.
-Fury was handicapped by a legally binding rematch clause. If he didn't honor it, he would be liable for serious financial damages.
But besides that, yeah, it's pretty much the same.
1) Lara is 100 times better than Dominic Wade
2) Dominic Wade only had 18 fights
3) Dominic Wade is even less of a draw then Lara, Jacobs, or Quillen
So would fans have understood why GGG dropped the IBF belt to fight Lara, Jacobs, or Quillen? **** yeah they would! Fans would have understood if GGG dropped the IBF belt to fight Bernard Hopkins, and he's 50. Why? Because fans know that B-Hop at 50, is better than Dominic Wade!
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I was watching a video by Dwyer a while back and he was saying the same thing. He seems to think GGG will be stronger at 168 and 175 and the guys there should take notice.
Personally I cannot see it. He is at his optimum weight now. He will still have success there as he is talented, but there are guys at 175 who are especially dangerous.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostSo how many top tenners has Ward fought in the past 4.5 years, what's your answer? Cause you know boxing is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY!!!. Lol fcuking idiot
stop acting like a child and trying to pull someone else into the conversation and stay on topic
Ward just moved up...GGG is a career middleweight...do you think he will fight anyone in the top ten this year? be honest
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postim useless but as a fan you dont want to see him fight top ten opposition on a regular basis....just admit it....screw last year, boxing is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY!!!he is the best middleweight right? well proof it vs the top ten and not mandatories who arent even known.
He has the most top10 wins on active boxers, there was an article on it. you fail.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostBoxing Insider
Kirk Jackson
Golovkin reigns as the consensus king of the middleweight division with many fighters in the middleweight division and junior middleweight division supposedly fearful of facing his power. It may actually seem strange to think there would be an opponent Golovkin isn’t too keen on fighting.
Enter Andre Ward 28-0 (15 KO’s).
Ward in recent times, actually dating back to last year, has called out Golovkin and stated he would be willing to fight boxing’s boogeyman. For the hardcore boxing fan, this is a sensational match-up, pitting two decorated fighters with extensive amateur backgrounds (both fighters Olympic Medalists) and two fighters’ thus far, possessing prestige and status as undefeated, elite world champions.
Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez however has other plans. As reported by BoxingScene.com, Sanchez was quoted as saying, “[Ward] is not relevant.” Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler echoed the same sentiment, seemingly dodging the possibly of matching his prized fighter against Ward.
As reported by BoxingScene.com, Loeffler said, “Ward-Golovkin is not a realistic fight at this point.” “It just doesn’t make sense to fight Andre because he’s not that relevant. There’s no guarantee Golovkin fights at 168.” Maybe Sanchez and Loeffler are correct. Maybe Ward isn’t relevant enough for the likes of Golovkin.
Ward is only the reigning super middleweight champion of the world, winner of the “Super Six” super middleweight tournament and undefeated as a professional fighter. Surely guys such as Willie Monroe Jr. and Martin Murray were more relevant fighters right? I’m certain Golovkin’s next opponent David Lemieux, is a much more popular figure and much more relevant than Ward right?
Honest and accurate assessment from middleweight contender Gabriel Rosado courtesy of FightHype.com.
Instead of a showdown with Ward, Team Golovkin is eying the winner of Miguel Cotto vs. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. It’s a big money fight, who can blame them?
Just like Team Golovkin desperately wants to fight Floyd Mayweather, because of the financial implications. Nothing wrong with that.
With the Ward situation, it seems Gennady’s team is weighing out the risk vs. reward factor. The lack of criticism for pursuing riches (Cotto/Canelo/Mayeather) rather than the most challenging opponent (Ward) is convenient.
When you’re an “Exciting fighter,” certain blemishes can be forgiven or overlooked. It’s fair to say Golovkin has faced limited opposition. Lost in the mix of it is the “Excitement Factor,” which is subjective. Although his recent string of knockouts and overall punching power is amazing, the list of competition leaves much to be desired.
When you’re 33 years-old, a nine year veteran in the professional ranks and the most decorated and arguably best opponent faced thus far is Daniel Geale, that’s a problem. Especially if Golovkin is being heralded as one of boxing’s biggest stars and is thought of as a top five or top ten fighter across various pound for pound lists.
With all of the criticism Danny Garcia faces, he virtually cleaned out the junior welterweight division and recently moved up to welterweight in search of bigger fights. Yet he can’t even crack the top ten pound for pound list, at least according to Ring Magazine.
Despite the depth of his resume, because he appears to be out of favor with some boxing audiences his true value as a fighter and what he has accomplished thus far is undervalued.
Golovkin’s next fight will be against the newly crowned IBF middleweight champion David Lemieux in a unification match. This is a match that will be Golovkin’s biggest test up to date and if triumphant, aims to face the winner of Cotto-Alvarez. With all indications of Golovkin-Ward being placed on the back burner; remember risk vs. reward.
Many media outlets and various fans have dubbed Golovkin as “The most feared man” in boxing. Is it fair to say his handlers are fearful of what may happen if he ever fights Andre Ward?
http://www.*************.com/columns...ins-boogeyman/
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postbro...we went months talking about ward not fighting, he is finally being more active
stop acting like a child and trying to pull someone else into the conversation and stay on topic
Ward just moved up...GGG is a career middleweight...do you think he will fight anyone in the top ten this year? be honest
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostAwesome except:
1) Lara is 100 times better than Dominic Wade
2) Dominic Wade only had 18 fights
3) Dominic Wade is even less of a draw then Lara, Jacobs, or Quillen
So would fans have understood why GGG dropped the IBF belt to fight Lara, Jacobs, or Quillen? **** yeah they would! Fans would have understood if GGG dropped the IBF belt to fight Bernard Hopkins, and he's 50. Why? Because fans know that B-Hop at 50, is better than Dominic Wade!
And why are you so determined for him to drop the belt? He can fulfill the mandatory obligation and then fight whoever he wants. This is getting silly.
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Originally posted by _Maxi View PostWard is 2 years younger than GGG and had a long period of time resting, I think everyone can see that GGG would be the disfavoured in terms of age. GGG is living his prime... which is sad to us as boxing fans.
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