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  • Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
    Ward hasn't fought any top LHW yet... not even a top 10 LHW. And we don't knwo the date of his fight against Kovalev.
    Ward and Kov. Both signed their contracts to fight in Sept.

    Where u been??

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    • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
      He fought Murray and Lemieux last year, both clear cut top 10. But you were insistent he needs to fight a top 3 Mw, yet turns out all 3 are ducking. Useless poster
      im useless but as a fan you dont want to see him fight top ten opposition on a regular basis....just admit it....screw last year, boxing is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY!!!he is the best middleweight right? well proof it vs the top ten and not mandatories who arent even known.

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      • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        im useless but as a fan you dont want to see him fight top ten opposition on a regular basis....just admit it....screw last year, boxing is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY!!!he is the best middleweight right? well proof it vs the top ten and not mandatories who arent even known.
        I wanted him to fight Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs, the top 3 dumb****. Jeeze, useless.

        As for the bolded, somehow that doesn't apply to Ward eh? How many top tenners has he fought in the past year? How about past 4.5 years lol

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        • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          im useless but as a fan you dont want to see him fight top ten opposition on a regular basis....just admit it....screw last year, boxing is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY!!!he is the best middleweight right? well proof it vs the top ten and not mandatories who arent even known.
          What do you do when the IBF wants you to face much weaker opponents:

          December 9, 2015

          "If the IBF are going to make a belated moral judgment and strip Tyson Fury because, apparently, [Klitschko promotional company] K2 never told them about the rematch clause, surely they should be just as moral and not take the large sanction fees they are taking," Hennessy told ESPN.com. "In my opinion, the IBF should be ashamed of themselves. First, they called for private negotiations. Canceled. Then they called for purse bids. Canceled. Then they strip Tyson of his title for something he had no control over.

          "Tyson as a fighter, Peter [Fury, his uncle] as a trainer and us as a promotional outfit, we did things properly. We went after the elite lineal heavyweight champion in Wladimir Klitschko. We took the hardest route of all and pulled it off big-time."

          Even if Fury (25-0, 18 KOs) could get out of the rematch with Klitschko (64-4, 54 KOs), he might not want to. Fury will earn many millions more fighting Klitschko again than he would facing the relatively unknown Glazkov.

          http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...v-glazkov-bout

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          • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
            I wanted him to fight Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs, the top 3 dumb****. Jeeze, useless.

            As for the bolded, somehow that doesn't apply to Ward eh? How many top tenners has he fought in the past year? How about past 4.5 years lol
            ward will be fighting Kovalev soon, actually was lineal in a division and won his belts IN THE RING.....any other questions?

            oh ok now i know your alt account

            anyway, every weight class has a top ten...whenever he has a mandatory they are fighters we have to google...do you like that as a fan?

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            • Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
              Ward and Kov. Both signed their contracts to fight in Sept.

              Where u been??
              Yet still no date, which means numerous things can go wrong. If true, and Ward is about to fight a guy ranked 15, I doubt he's fight Kov after that.

              Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
              im useless but as a fan you dont want to see him fight top ten opposition on a regular basis....just admit it....screw last year, boxing is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY!!!he is the best middleweight right? well proof it vs the top ten and not mandatories who arent even known.
              GGG has fought mostly top tens since coming to HBO. And it's because that's when they'd take a risk fighting him.

              Now if the top 3 would take a risk, those fights would be done.

              GGG tried his ass off getting Suanders and Canelo, to act as if he's not is silly.

              Lara has top JRMW calling him out and he's acting as if they don't exist, but he's seen as this elite guy. It's silly.

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              • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                What do you do when the IBF wants you to face much weaker opponents:

                December 9, 2015

                "If the IBF are going to make a belated moral judgment and strip Tyson Fury because, apparently, [Klitschko promotional company] K2 never told them about the rematch clause, surely they should be just as moral and not take the large sanction fees they are taking," Hennessy told ESPN.com. "In my opinion, the IBF should be ashamed of themselves. First, they called for private negotiations. Canceled. Then they called for purse bids. Canceled. Then they strip Tyson of his title for something he had no control over.

                "Tyson as a fighter, Peter [Fury, his uncle] as a trainer and us as a promotional outfit, we did things properly. We went after the elite lineal heavyweight champion in Wladimir Klitschko. We took the hardest route of all and pulled it off big-time."

                Even if Fury (25-0, 18 KOs) could get out of the rematch with Klitschko (64-4, 54 KOs), he might not want to. Fury will earn many millions more fighting Klitschko again than he would facing the relatively unknown Glazkov.

                http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...v-glazkov-bout
                Awesome. Except:
                -Lara is not linear champ anywhere.
                -Lara is "a" champ in a lower division.
                -Lara doesn't bring millions. As a matter of fact, the reason K2 went with Monroe instead of Lara originally was because Lara WANTED millions.
                -Fury was handicapped by a legally binding rematch clause. If he didn't honor it, he would be liable for serious financial damages.

                But besides that, yeah, it's pretty much the same.

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                • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  ANOTHER CAN, FOR THE CAN MAN.....can man has the highest can to man ratio of all time


                  if anybody can make the p4p without beating elite competition the can man can


                  30 cans and 5 decent opponents....Lemmie, Murray, Macklin, Stevens and Daniel Geale...the rest belong in a campbell soup factory
                  Is that why his fans don't care who he fights??? All drunk from the beer cans??? I would be a drunk fool as well after seeing 30+ plus cans...

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                  • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                    ward will be fighting Kovalev soon, actually was lineal in a division and won his belts IN THE RING.....any other questions?

                    oh ok now i know your alt account

                    anyway, every weight class has a top ten...whenever he has a mandatory they are fighters we have to google...do you like that as a fan?
                    GGG got one title without fighting. They had to fight for a vacant WBA.

                    And Ward had a contract to force top SMW to fight him, then turned around and screwed the guy who got him the plush deal.

                    I love people bring up ****** contentions like "alt account" as if it diminishes someone's premise.

                    Ward hasn't fought at SMW since 2013. Supposed GGG is a untested MW, so what the **** is a LHW chasing a untested hyped up MW for.

                    What would you haters say if GGG was chasing Spence and untested hyped up WW? Do I even have to answer that.

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                    • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      im useless but as a fan you dont want to see him fight top ten opposition on a regular basis....just admit it....screw last year, boxing is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TODAY!!!he is the best middleweight right? well proof it vs the top ten and not mandatories who arent even known.
                      Boxing Insider
                      Kirk Jackson

                      Golovkin reigns as the consensus king of the middleweight division with many fighters in the middleweight division and junior middleweight division supposedly fearful of facing his power. It may actually seem strange to think there would be an opponent Golovkin isn’t too keen on fighting.

                      Enter Andre Ward 28-0 (15 KO’s).

                      Ward in recent times, actually dating back to last year, has called out Golovkin and stated he would be willing to fight boxing’s boogeyman. For the hardcore boxing fan, this is a sensational match-up, pitting two decorated fighters with extensive amateur backgrounds (both fighters Olympic Medalists) and two fighters’ thus far, possessing prestige and status as undefeated, elite world champions.

                      Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez however has other plans. As reported by BoxingScene.com, Sanchez was quoted as saying, “[Ward] is not relevant.” Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler echoed the same sentiment, seemingly dodging the possibly of matching his prized fighter against Ward.

                      As reported by BoxingScene.com, Loeffler said, “Ward-Golovkin is not a realistic fight at this point.” “It just doesn’t make sense to fight Andre because he’s not that relevant. There’s no guarantee Golovkin fights at 168.” Maybe Sanchez and Loeffler are correct. Maybe Ward isn’t relevant enough for the likes of Golovkin.

                      Ward is only the reigning super middleweight champion of the world, winner of the “Super Six” super middleweight tournament and undefeated as a professional fighter. Surely guys such as Willie Monroe Jr. and Martin Murray were more relevant fighters right? I’m certain Golovkin’s next opponent David Lemieux, is a much more popular figure and much more relevant than Ward right?

                      Honest and accurate assessment from middleweight contender Gabriel Rosado courtesy of FightHype.com.

                      Instead of a showdown with Ward, Team Golovkin is eying the winner of Miguel Cotto vs. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. It’s a big money fight, who can blame them?

                      Just like Team Golovkin desperately wants to fight Floyd Mayweather, because of the financial implications. Nothing wrong with that.

                      With the Ward situation, it seems Gennady’s team is weighing out the risk vs. reward factor. The lack of criticism for pursuing riches (Cotto/Canelo/Mayeather) rather than the most challenging opponent (Ward) is convenient.

                      When you’re an “Exciting fighter,” certain blemishes can be forgiven or overlooked. It’s fair to say Golovkin has faced limited opposition. Lost in the mix of it is the “Excitement Factor,” which is subjective. Although his recent string of knockouts and overall punching power is amazing, the list of competition leaves much to be desired.

                      When you’re 33 years-old, a nine year veteran in the professional ranks and the most decorated and arguably best opponent faced thus far is Daniel Geale, that’s a problem. Especially if Golovkin is being heralded as one of boxing’s biggest stars and is thought of as a top five or top ten fighter across various pound for pound lists.

                      With all of the criticism Danny Garcia faces, he virtually cleaned out the junior welterweight division and recently moved up to welterweight in search of bigger fights. Yet he can’t even crack the top ten pound for pound list, at least according to Ring Magazine.

                      Despite the depth of his resume, because he appears to be out of favor with some boxing audiences his true value as a fighter and what he has accomplished thus far is undervalued.

                      Golovkin’s next fight will be against the newly crowned IBF middleweight champion David Lemieux in a unification match. This is a match that will be Golovkin’s biggest test up to date and if triumphant, aims to face the winner of Cotto-Alvarez. With all indications of Golovkin-Ward being placed on the back burner; remember risk vs. reward.

                      Many media outlets and various fans have dubbed Golovkin as “The most feared man” in boxing. Is it fair to say his handlers are fearful of what may happen if he ever fights Andre Ward?

                      http://www.*************.com/columns...ins-boogeyman/

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