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  • techliam
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    #61
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    Its because he came out completely clean in 3 previous test and dirty in BOTH the 4th A & B samples... and then clean again.

    imo that sounds/looks like he tried to sneak something in there. I'm actually appalled that some here are defending even the smallest trace of any type of ped... its a dangerous sport as it is no one should be taking anything.
    But if he passed all 4 tests, whats the problem? What is it i'm missing, because it doesn't make sense? If its within the legal threshold, then how has Povetkin failed the test?

    The bolded is just naive thinking. Of course athletes will be taking things to enhance their performance. Some things are legal still, some aren't. They're all on performance enhancing drugs, taking something. They're just permitted to do so. I'm not defending anything, just trying to work out what the case actually is

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    • Divine Hammer
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      #62
      Originally posted by Freedom2016
      Triggering them bro

      I like the fact Povetkin didn't prove to be a bull****ter the fact he went into further testing made me question it but he did just that and prove himself innocent.
      Too bad not everyone has to adhere to the same level of testing!
      yup povetkin decided to prove the doubters wrong. this makes wilder tards angry demanding povetkin still be banned. sad.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Divine Hammer
        im not povetkin's doctor u scum of the earth.
        So the answer is no. So why was he taking that substance, when reports came out that russian tennis chick got busted for it cuz it was for a heart condition etc.

        So you are here defending PEDvetkin, yet you have no idea why he was taking it (after the wlad loss i might add he started) or what it does.



        but then you have the nerve to call me the scum of the earth but you blindly defending someone you dont even know, you dont know why he was taking it and you have no idea what it does! HAHAHAHAHA priceless

        I can see you now! All ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #64
          Originally posted by techliam
          I don't know what to think of such a small amount. Portions of a nano-gram, or something ridiculous. It was also revealed that Meldonium stays in the system for a long time, and that his most recent test was also negative. Its such a bizarre scenario.

          I like the example of DUI, but in the case of drug testing, you either pass or fail the test. A lot of fighters have a ridiculous testosterone level, but as long as you're under a 6-1 ratio or something in Vegas, you're fine. Something like that. I thought we should be praising VADA for catching a few fighters recently. They can only uphold standards set by WADA of course, they just seem to be catching them out pretty well
          not really. there was 16 days between the April 11 negative and the April 27 positive. Plenty of time in between. povetkin and his team just probably figured they were done with tests and got caught.

          Well i was just being sarcastic since so many pro VADA guys are now changing their tunes. they did there job and caught the cheater Povetkin.

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            #65
            Originally posted by techliam
            But if he passed all 4 tests, whats the problem? What is it i'm missing, because it doesn't make sense? If its within the legal threshold, then how has Povetkin failed the test?

            The bolded is just naive thinking. Of course athletes will be taking things to enhance their performance. Some things are legal still, some aren't. They're all on performance enhancing drugs, taking something. They're just permitted to do so. I'm not defending anything, just trying to work out what the case actually is
            So you don't see anything wrong with the previous test being COMPLETELY CLEAN, NO TRACES and a NEW test comes out with traces?

            Also, as I asked another poster..... why was povetkin taking it and what does that product do? If anyone knows shine some light on the subject.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Freedom2016
              You weren't saying that when Floyd Mayweather had done something illegal were you?

              The key word was 'Excuses' with no evidence why can't some just call it like it is?
              This is about Povetkin, no need to mention anyone else. But, since you are a little faggot, show me a floyd positive. I heard rumors of 3 but nothing factual. Also, floyd got a TUE, allowing the IV.

              VADA caught Povetkin. both a and b samples. No TUE. Cheater.

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                #67
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                He was randomly tested by VADA on April 7, 8 and 11, and each test came back negative for any banned substances. his test on April 27 was positive for meldonium, which is 16 days later in training.

                he had more fat cells on the earlier tests. if he hadn't used since Jan as he said, those tests would be more likely to be positive, not the latter.

                He used in the 16 days between the tests and got caught. VADA did its job. You are just mad Povetkin got caught.
                more fantasy land theories.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by techliam
                  But if he passed all 4 tests, whats the problem? What is it i'm missing, because it doesn't make sense? If its within the legal threshold, then how has Povetkin failed the test?

                  The bolded is just naive thinking. Of course athletes will be taking things to enhance their performance. Some things are legal still, some aren't. They're all on performance enhancing drugs, taking something. They're just permitted to do so. I'm not defending anything, just trying to work out what the case actually is
                  Thats for tests collected before March 1. After that its considered positive

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973
                    So the answer is no. So why was he taking that substance, when reports came out that russian tennis chick got busted for it cuz it was for a heart condition etc.

                    So you are here defending PEDvetkin, yet you have no idea why he was taking it (after the wlad loss i might add he started) or what it does.



                    but then you have the nerve to call me the scum of the earth but you blindly defending someone you dont even know, you dont know why he was taking it and you have no idea what it does! HAHAHAHAHA priceless

                    I can see you now! All ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!
                    hammer and lou cipher I mean Freedom2016 are just playing their roles as trolls. if VADA had caught a non white, they'd be celebrating.

                    Sharapovetkin had to cheat to beat a Wilder level opponent-says alot about him.

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                    • techliam
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      So you don't see anything wrong with the previous test being COMPLETELY CLEAN, NO TRACES and a NEW test comes out with traces?

                      Also, as I asked another poster..... why was povetkin taking it and what does that product do? If anyone knows shine some light on the subject.
                      Well first, stop assuming anything about what I see wrong or don't see wrong.

                      I asked a fairly simply question. If traces of Meldonium or whatever are within a legal threshold, then how did Povetkin fail the test? WADA seemed to set a guideline of a certain amount, which I assume is calculated on the effectiveness of the drug balanced with how long it stays in an athletes body. If they set a certain amount legal, then they must have a reason for it.

                      As far as I see it, if Povetkin failed the test, ban him. If he hasn't then, let the fight be rearranged. I assume that most top level athletes are pushing to the limits the amount of performance enhancing supplements they can take legally, to achieve an advantage. If its legal, why wouldn't they?

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