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  • #51
    Originally posted by techliam View Post
    Theres something i'm not getting here though

    I always assumed testing positive = failing the test

    Now there are claims that testing positive isn't necessarily failing the test. Povetkin tested positive for a substance, but was within a legal limit. So how on earth did he fail the test? There's something i'm missing here.

    If he hasn't failed the test, let the fight go on so Wilder can get a 5m payday and a chance to reach the elite of the division. I hope the WBC sheds some light on it
    Its because he came out completely clean in 3 previous test and dirty in BOTH the 4th A & B samples... and then clean again.

    imo that sounds/looks like he tried to sneak something in there. I'm actually appalled that some here are defending even the smallest trace of any type of ped... its a dangerous sport as it is no one should be taking anything.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      Povetkin tested positive for a banned substance. He used it after he tested negative. He deserves a ban.
      Key word Residual.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        well, on that I am as confused. He had trace amounts but this came up after testing negative 2x, indicating he used it after those tests were taken, well after the ban was in place, and clearly contradicting his story that he didn't use since Jan 1 when the ban began.

        I guess its like blowing a .07 on a DUI-clearly drinking but not enough for a DUI charge. Guess you just get charged with wreckless driving.

        Seems like VADA isn't as great as so many thought if they allow fighters to use.
        I don't know what to think of such a small amount. Portions of a nano-gram, or something ridiculous. It was also revealed that Meldonium stays in the system for a long time, and that his most recent test was also negative. Its such a bizarre scenario.

        I like the example of DUI, but in the case of drug testing, you either pass or fail the test. A lot of fighters have a ridiculous testosterone level, but as long as you're under a 6-1 ratio or something in Vegas, you're fine. Something like that. I thought we should be praising VADA for catching a few fighters recently. They can only uphold standards set by WADA of course, they just seem to be catching them out pretty well

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        • #54
          Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
          AAAhhhhhh so that's what it is....

          Question:

          Do povetkin have a heart condition yes or no? Simple question.... simple answer.

          oh and name calling is not needed or warranted unless you are feeling threatened in some type of way.
          im not povetkin's doctor u scum of the earth.

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          • #55
            POSITIVE TEST for meldonium is : to have more than 1 microgram of meldonium in his blood.

            But POVETKIN's 5th test only shown 0.07 microgram of meldonium.

            SO HE NEVER FAILED ANY DRUG TEST.

            You are just lying while POVETKIN not !!!

            And that's the irony of that sequence.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
              not uncommon in testing for trace amounts to pop up in a test. it has to do with fat cells.

              nothing wrong with what VADA did. they found the trace amounts. only further investigation was needed to prove it was residual (which it is).
              He was randomly tested by VADA on April 7, 8 and 11, and each test came back negative for any banned substances. his test on April 27 was positive for meldonium, which is 16 days later in training.

              he had more fat cells on the earlier tests. if he hadn't used since Jan as he said, those tests would be more likely to be positive, not the latter.

              He used in the 16 days between the tests and got caught. VADA did its job. You are just mad Povetkin got caught.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
                not uncommon in testing for trace amounts to pop up in a test. it has to do with fat cells.

                nothing wrong with what VADA did. they found the trace amounts. only further investigation was needed to prove it was residual (which it is).
                Triggering them bro

                I like the fact Povetkin didn't prove to be a bull****ter the fact he went into further testing made me question it but he did just that and prove himself innocent.
                Too bad not everyone has to adhere to the same level of testing!

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
                  Key word Residual.
                  key word-positive.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by JULIEN44 View Post
                    POSITIVE TEST for meldonium is : to have more than 1 microgram of meldonium in his blood.

                    But POVETKIN's 5th test only shown 0.07 microgram of meldonium.

                    SO HE NEVER FAILED ANY DRUG TEST.

                    You are just lying while POVETKIN not !!!

                    And that's the irony of that sequence.

                    these people dont get it.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      key word-positive.
                      You weren't saying that when Floyd Mayweather had done something illegal were you?

                      The key word was 'Excuses' with no evidence why can't some just call it like it is?

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