Comments Thread For: Roach: I'd Still Like Mayweather To Face a 'Healthy' Manny Pacquiao

[Zaroku]

True, Algieri and Rios are good, but not that great. But the way Pac was able to beat a top guy like Bradley was impressive.

Pac isn't shot and he can still compete and look good now, but he's still past his prime and looked that was after 2010. Marquez and his style was a problem for Pac since 2004. All those right hands finally caught up to Pac in 2012.

Agreed! Good analysis.

[ADP02]

Please give up. You are clearly the one with comprehension issues. You have admit that you can't understand how he rehabbed. I wonder why.

You were giving lots of praise to Teddy Atlas when it fit your agenda. How about paying attention to this. Maybe he can talk some sense into you:

12:00 If that’s the case, why did Roach talk about Pacquaio knocking out Mayweather??? (same thing Malignaggi was saying!)

14:40 I never saw him once pull back in any type of agony, never saw a wince, never saw any hint that it was hurting him!

The video should start at the appropriate areas.



And don’t give me that bs about pain not being a factor. That is clearly about people living with this injury, not a professional fighter in a 12 round fight throwing and connecting punches with the torn shoulder.

Hmm. Seems like he is being unbiased since he’s not willing to say the injury was non-existent nor saying it was embellished…but sure seems like he’s confused by what he witnessed. I wonder why. So what you got to say about your boy Atlas now? Still laughing at u, homes. Give up!

Cheers

Thanks .... This interview is exactly what I said about Teddy being one of Manny's worst critics ....

Teddy was all over the place (read below) ... and you only picked and chose what Teddy said. Still, the other video came much later and Teddy said what? You cannot repeat what he said because it goes against your speculation.

1) "Why did Roach say that Manny would KO Floyd?"
A) When does Roach not say that before a fight?
B) One would think that a KO would come from his left uninjured arm not his right.

2) "Taking selfies thinking you won already because of the big pay day and knowing you cannot win with the injury"
A) Here is saying that Manny was hurt.

3) Continues talking about fighters/football players not coming into fights 100%
A) Here is saying that Manny was hurt but should have overcome the injury

4) I never saw him once pull back, in any type of agony, never saw a wince, never saw any hint that it was hurting him!

Well, Teddy was wrong since Manny did back up and stated in an interview why he pulled back. He was injured.

"When I threw a lot of punches (in round 4), combinations, I backed off because it hurt" - Manny

[Chuckguy]

This thread is still alive?

[Spoon23]

His love for Floyd is just too deep that he cannot handle the fact that Manny had a full thickness tear.

Travesty says that they said it was a "full thickness tear" just so they can claim it was a serious tear but here is where he got that wrong:
You would think that if Manny's team had this plan, they would be saying ""full thickness tear" every time they get interviewed.

I do not remember hearing anyone on Manny's team saying "full thickness tear". I told him but he is too far gone. So just like most of his theories, he got that one wrong.

Well put again ADP02.

He's like Floyd, he loves to clean up the sport and later gets caught having 750 ml IVS and Tues to mask his ass. Hypocrite much? TravestNY wants Pac to make the same mistake, but no one in pac's team said he had a full thickness tear. It's only a medical expert who said that.

Ace as always adp02! If by judging on how travestyNY wants to pin Pac down with his flawed evidence against Pac. His logic does make sense to Floyd's hypocrisy. If Floyd wants to clean up the sport. Why hire memo? Why the IVS? Why the tues? Why the double standard?

He should go out to Floyd and clear that out, since the way I see it, Travestyny is trying to be righteous not realizing his favorite athlete is the best example of how to cheat in boxing lmao Oh the hypocrisy haha

Hypocrisy thy name is TravestNY and His idol Froid lol

# what they don't get is, Not manny nor anyone else wants to clean up the sport. It's only Floyd who brought that fake stint up.

# what they don't get is, not Manny or any athletes were calling themselves TBE, it was only Froid who brought that up. Calling yourself that puts you on a higher standard than those who never mentioned that they are the best.

# fl0mos can't see that their idol put himself in that position. No one else. Therefore any critical mistake Floyd does is under a microscope, since he is after all TBE LMAO

[ADP02]

Maybe he didn't mention it because HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE, idiot.



Hahaha. This tells me all I need to know about you. You learned something from your boy, Pac. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

You didn't have any problem when I said I'd set up the poll. You didn't express any problems with the poll when you were winning the poll and your boys Spoon and SilverMiles were calling it a massacre and doing the dance of joy up in there when it was 16 - 6. As soon as the poll ends, what do we have?

Spoon -- You filled the poll with alts.
SilverMiles -- You filled the poll with alts
ADP02 -- Pac fans don't come here anymore so it isn't fair (by the way...after he retired? If they stopped coming, it's because HE LOST TO MAYWEATHER. You can't even be honest with yourself about that???)

You sore losers. I explained in the first damn post that it wasn't about being a fan. It's about looking at the evidence and casting your vote. period. If you take a closer look at that poll, which is public, I dare you to find any perceived alts or any account that was created after the post date that voted that Manny did not have a full-thickness tear.

However, I can find at least one poster who joined the day that the thread was created, voted that Manny did have a full-thickness tear, and then never returned. Hmmm. Could you be Chris Boyles? One of your cronies surely is. lol. Cheaters never win, bro!

Now scram, kid.

I never cared about the results of the poll. I just came and did what I told you I would do. Discuss and debunk your so called FACTS/EVIDENCE. I accomplished that on several points, thank you very much. I waited a few days to post over here ..... and came back and I still do not see any real evidence from you.

Poll: When I viewed the posters who voted most looked familiar and it went the way I thought it would. Floyd fans vs Manny fans and a sprinkle of neither. So that is why I said what I said ..... but like I said my goal was not the poll. Its meaningless.



Manny's renowned doctor: Manny had a full thickness tear

Travestny: DIDN'T HAVE ONE

Who should people believe? A Floyd internet doctor or one they call a super doctor and does 500+ surgeries a year for people like Kobe Bryant?

[ADP02]

Well put again ADP02.

He's like Floyd, he loves to clean up the sport and later gets caught having 750 ml IVS and Tues to mask his ass. Hypocrite much? TravestNY wants Pac to make the same mistake, but no one in pac's team said he had a full thickness tear. It's only a medical expert who said that.

Ace as always adp02! If by judging on how travestyNY wants to pin Pac down with his flawed evidence against Pac. His logic does make sense to Floyd's hypocrisy. If Floyd wants to clean up the sport. Why hire memo? Why the IVS? Why the tues? Why the double standard?

He should go out to Floyd and clear that out, since the way I see it, Travestyny is trying to be righteous not realizing his favorite athlete is the best example of how to cheat in boxing lmao Oh the hypocrisy haha

Hypocrisy thy name is TravestNY and His idol Froid lol

# what they don't get is, Not manny nor anyone else wants to clean up the sport. It's only Floyd who brought that fake stint up.

# what they don't get is, not Manny or any athletes were calling themselves TBE, it was only Froid who brought that up. Calling yourself that puts you on a higher standard than those who never mentioned that they are the best.

# fl0mos can't see that their idol put himself in that position. No one else. Therefore any critical mistake Floyd does is under a microscope, since he is after all TBE LMAO

Ever since I saw him talking from both sides of his mouth I have been calling him "New" Travestyny ..... "OLD" Travestny would be calling "NEW" out ..... saying he is delusional.


"OLD" Travestny: Unless you have all 100% of the evidence, please do not say that Floyd used an IV to mask his PEDs.

"NEW" Travestny: I do not need 100% of the evidence when it comes to Manny.....

[Spoon23]

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Manny's renowned doctor: Manny had a full thickness tear

Travestny: DIDN'T HAVE ONE

Who should people believe? A Floyd internet doctor or one they call a super doctor and does 500+ surgeries a year for people like Kobe Bryant?

Does that Internet doctor have a Phd in medicine? If not then that dude should be imprisoned for false practice! Hahaha

So many wannabee doctors in this world. But the one who I'm scared of is witchcraft. Is travestNY into witchcraft? That kind is the only kind that doesn't need any college degree though..

I'm really puzzled how he tries to talk as if he is the authority for sports medicine. what's his medical background?

[ADP02]

Does that Internet doctor have a Phd in medicine? If not then that dude should be imprisoned for false practice! Hahaha

So many wannabee doctors in this world. But the one who I'm scared of is witchcraft. Is travestNY into witchcraft? That kind is the only kind that doesn't need any college degree though..

I'm really puzzled how he tries to talk as if he is the authority for sports medicine. what's his medical background?

Witchcraft: What he does is throw everything (eg. links to 11 documents) and hopes that something sticks ....
but
when you look closely, all he has is a potion of fluff. When I ask him to back up his fluff with real evidence he deflects and calls people names. He has been doing that more and more so its a sure sign that he knows that he has been defeated.


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[travestyny]

Thanks .... This interview is exactly what I said about Teddy being one of Manny's worst critics ....

Teddy was all over the place (read below) ... and you only picked and chose what Teddy said. Still, the other video came much later and Teddy said what? You cannot repeat what he said because it goes against your speculation.

1) "Why did Roach say that Manny would KO Floyd?"
A) When does Roach not say that before a fight?
B) One would think that a KO would come from his left uninjured arm not his right.

2) "Taking selfies thinking you won already because of the big pay day and knowing you cannot win with the injury"
A) Here is saying that Manny was hurt.

3) Continues talking about fighters/football players not coming into fights 100%
A) Here is saying that Manny was hurt but should have overcome the injury

4) I never saw him once pull back, in any type of agony, never saw a wince, never saw any hint that it was hurting him!

Well, Teddy was wrong since Manny did back up and stated in an interview why he pulled back. He was injured.

"When I threw a lot of punches (in round 4), combinations, I backed off because it hurt" - Manny

I picked and chose what to discuss... Yet I posted the entire interview? Hmmm. Looks like you are picking and choosing what to buy from him. I wonder why

[travestyny]

Witchcraft: What he does is throw everything (eg. links to 11 documents) and hopes that something sticks ....
but
when you look closely, all he has is a potion of fluff. When I ask him to back up his fluff with real evidence he deflects and calls people names. He has been doing that more and more so its a sure sign that he knows that he has been defeated.


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Sorry. You must have forgotten the a$$whoopin you got in that thread, complete with admitting that the doctor can't be trusted. Didn't you say that, or should I go get the quotes again?

Lol. Clown. You lost. Get over it and give up. No one cares anymore, but I did enjoy that poll. The way your buddies spoon and silver miles cried. Now that really made my day. You on the other hand just made up excuses. Sorry. You lost and it's done, crybaby.