Comments Thread For: Ryabinsky Intent To Clear Povetkin, Reschedule Wilder Bout

[j0zef]

Povetkin's promoter is saying that he took another test, May 17th, and that test came up clean according to VADA. (boxing news24)

Could be shady, could be not. VADA needs to hurry up and make a ruling.

Alexander Povetkin's new sample clear. We are waiting for our opponents and some journalists to apologize... Or pay for their words)

— Рябинский Андрей (@Ryabinskiy) May 31, 2016

[Dr Rumack]

The problem to me is he was clean & then he was dirty. If this is supposed to stay in your system for a long time why wasn't it there a few weeks previously? Its not THAT trace of an amount that it wouldn't show up from what I've heard from others more knowing about PED testing **** then I. And I've yet to hear of a similar case where a athlete was clean & then dirty of this substance & there are shortage of cases involved this substance.

So if thats the case my inclination would be that he would be under the revised guidelines. He'd be under the normal guidelines which suggest no amount of this substance be in your system. My assumption has been that he was microdosing &/or masking for this or potential other substances. T

That's how I see it too, a false positive or microdosing. My problem with the microdosing argument is that meldonium isn't that potent as far as I understand. It's not like EPO for example where even small doses are very beneficial.

I think the first is more likely than people think, especially when you are talking about traces. It's not that he was 'clean' in the earlier tests, it's just that the traces are so minute they might not show up.

I am inclined to think Povetkin was doping anyway but they have a strong case here.

[Dr Rumack]

WADA doesn't set the penalties. They set the standards. I find it a stretch to believe three tests couldn't find it but the fourth tests did. What type of mom and pops organization is VADA running? If that's the case we have to go back and question every single test VADA has conducted. The positives and the negatives. Even Wilder's tests have to be investigated.

That's only the case if the levels are significant. They're not remotely significant in this case. You're talking about a tiny margin of error.

But in any case it's for WADA & VADA to figure that side of it out. The legal side of it is probably the more relevant for Wilder and Povetkin.

[PACnPBFsuck]

So this drug is so strong, that it has traces even 7 months after you stop using it, Gawdam, that's gotta be a world record or something.

[MC Hammer]

You know how after getting off steroids a person is still weak after training because their body is used to having testosterone produced for it and no longer produces it itself; that's what more than likely is happening with Povetkin.

He took a drug to improve stamina and now its difficult for him to achieve peak stamina on his own. This being his last chance at a belt his team probably put a little bit on him, enough to look trace, to give him a chance to wane himself off it and be able to achieved stamina later. He knows that he's cheated, but is trying to cover his tracks. No matter Wilder will starch him out and get his check as soon as its rescheduled.

[DeadLikeMe]

Did they get the B sample tested yet? Since trace amounts magically appear and disappear according to Ryabinksi, they'd have wanted to get the B sample tested. Why haven't we heard anything about that?

[k1llu]

Did they get the B sample tested yet? Since trace amounts magically appear and disappear according to Ryabinksi, they'd have wanted to get the B sample tested. Why haven't we heard anything about that?

according to espn it came back positive

[hhs661]

B Sample.. TEST IT!!!

[Eff Pandas]

WADA doesn't set the penalties. They set the standards. I find it a stretch to believe three tests couldn't find it but the fourth tests did. What type of mom and pops organization is VADA running? If that's the case we have to go back and question every single test VADA has conducted. The positives and the negatives. Even Wilder's tests have to be investigated.

This. These tests either mean something or they don't. Lets make up our minds.

[MDPopescu]

Everyone's story matches except for Wilder's. His camp is pretending Povetkin tested "dirty" and the fight as "called off".

According to WADA guidelines, VADA rules, WBC's statement, and Ryabinsky, it's postponed to make sure the amounts were below threshold.

Even if they "clear" Povetkin, Wilder will not fight him.