Comments Thread For: Ryabinsky Intent To Clear Povetkin, Reschedule Wilder Bout

[Motorcity Cobra]

That's only the case if the levels are significant. They're not remotely significant in this case. You're talking about a tiny margin of error.

But in any case it's for WADA & VADA to figure that side of it out. The legal side of it is probably the more relevant for Wilder and Povetkin.

But a margin of error that was overlooked three times? If it were once maybe they'd have a leg to stand on. But I can't overlook the THREE previous tests that found no amounts. If VADA is missing it three times then they aren't as good as people claim them to be. They're catching it at a 25% rate. That's either incompetence or corruption.

[Eff Pandas]

That's how I see it too, a false positive or microdosing. My problem with the microdosing argument is that meldonium isn't that potent as far as I understand. It's not like EPO for example where even small doses are very beneficial.

Eh, you are preaching to the choir here. I mean guys get suspended over weed ffs. I definitely think the whole banned substance list should be gone over completely & maybe some things taken off that shouldn't really be there. Problem for Ryabinsky & Povetkin is that doesn't help him right now.

And who knows the mindset of someone willing to take sketchy measures to help themselves perform better. There are girls putting some sort of cement in their asses to get bigger booties lol. The ineffective or downright ****** roads people will take to be who they wanna be won't ever surprise me. And alot of the problem with this substance is that no one seems to know how effective it is or isn't, just that a ton of athletes winning medals & doing well were using it. So who knows how effective microdosing is or isn't. I personally suspect a nice % of the upside of using PED's is just the placebo effect. You think something will make you better & it does.

I think the first is more likely than people think, especially when you are talking about traces. It's not that he was 'clean' in the earlier tests, it's just that the traces are so minute they might not show up.

I am inclined to think Povetkin was doping anyway but they have a strong case here.

Idk about the trace thing. If this substance has the staying power it does my assumption would be it'd have shown up. If there were more cases like Povetkin's I'd be more prone to buy his story or at least consider it more.

[joe strong]

Enough with the he said she said bulls**t! If he was clean & below the levels like this guy says then why did the WBC postpone the fight? Why did they cancel the fight on May 21? Yeah yeah it's only postponed but if his levels were 15 times lower why did the fight not happen? The WBC called off the fight at the time... It's not rocket science... We are not getting the full story...

[joe strong]

Team Povetkin will fight this tooth & nail because a lengthly suspension could close the door on Povetkin. He is pushing 37. If he loses his rank then he may have to get in line & climb the ladder again. He isn't getting younger. They screwed up by taking this substance in the first place. It doesn't matter if it was before or after. If he doesn't take it in the past the fight went on. This is reality people. It's like being a dope smoker for 25 years & you quit smoking dope for 2 months &
you fail a drug test at work because it's still in your system.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Povetkin's promoter is saying that he took another test, May 17th, and that test came up clean according to VADA. (boxing news24)

Could be shady, could be not. VADA needs to hurry up and make a ruling.

Alexander Povetkin's new sample clear. We are waiting for our opponents and some journalists to apologize... Or pay for their words)

— Рябинский Андрей (@Ryabinskiy) May 31, 2016

But why are the tests accurate now? Ryabinski dismisses the accuracy of the tests the first three times when they showed no amounts in Povetkins system but now the tests are legit? Why is this test showing no amounts legit but not the first three tests showing no amounts?

That's only the case if the levels are significant. They're not remotely significant in this case. You're talking about a tiny margin of error.

But in any case it's for WADA & VADA to figure that side of it out. The legal side of it is probably the more relevant for Wilder and Povetkin.

The levels being trace amounts is insignificant because according to the first three tests he didn't have any amounts in his system at all. The question should sbe how did he go from no levels the first three times to trace amounts the 4th time to now no amount on May 17th

This. These tests either mean something or they don't. Lets make up our minds.

That's what I'm saying. Now Ryabinski is cherry picking which passed tests are good and which passed tests are inaccurate. He's saying the first three tests in April that showed nothing in Povetkin's system isn't accurate. The fourth test is accurate but only small amounts left over from September. Now the test he passed on May 17th that shows no amounts in his system is also accurate.

So to recap Ryabinsky's reasoning. This drug is so strong it lasts in your system for 7 months. But it's not strong enough to be detected on three separate occasions. But it's strong enough to be detected on the fourth occasion. But it's weak enough to disappear from your system just three weeks after it was detected in your system. And people are seriously buying this story?

[Eff Pandas]

So to recap Ryabinsky's reasoning. This drug is so strong it lasts in your system for 7 months. But it's not strong enough to be detected on three separate occasions. But it's strong enough to be detected on the fourth occasion. But it's weak enough to disappear from your system just three weeks after it was detected in your system. And people are seriously buying this story?

LOL great breakdown of this situation.

[MrRolltide91]

Smh..........

[BoxingFan85]

Povetkin's promoter is saying that he took another test, May 17th, and that test came up clean according to VADA. (boxing news24)

Could be shady, could be not. VADA needs to hurry up and make a ruling.

Alexander Povetkin's new sample clear. We are waiting for our opponents and some journalists to apologize... Or pay for their words)

— Рябинский Андрей (@Ryabinskiy) May 31, 2016

This is getting silly now.. 1/4 tests showed traces.. Either it was flushed out or VADA tests are not consistent, don't know what else to infer from this..

The VADA test results are changing like NYC weather..

[Francis M.]

Clear things up? Clean his system?

[MrRolltide91]

He's saying it's possible for the drug not to show up in some tests. If it were one test I might buy that excuse. Not showing up in three tests is hard to believe. So there can only be one of two scenarios:

1. VADA is incompetent
2. Povetkin doped

Exactly......