Deontay Wilders "reign", the worst ever?

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  • Sugarhitman
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    #81
    Originally posted by yammy25
    The fight with klitchko was always the fight.. he was mandatory to the belts so fought Hammer as a stay busy for the bout.. whats so hard to undertand about that ?

    Fury was Mando from the end of 2014, klit had to fulfil Pulev and Jennings beforehand.

    If fury fought Wilder as a voluntary for the WBC, he loses his mandatory position for Klits belts? so you say he fights wilder on free to air tv with no PPV money for a smaller purse because he's voluntary for one belt against an opponent that Fury's market demographic give 0 ****s about and that's a negative against him? LOL k gr8 b8 m8.

    Wilder brings no money, thats a fact that not just wilder "haters" say, its s common belief held by boxing journalists world wide. If he wants to be the big man, then he can fight someone worth a **** that doesnt have a belt instead of whining for unification bouts he has no right to command.

    Ortiz has enrolled and passed Vada, Stiverne dont want the work so why arent you asking for Deontay to fight old man luis?


    Dude, Fury could have fought Wilder and won the WBC strap and then faced Wlad in a unification bout as it was known that Wlad wanted to add that belt to his collection....Fury didnt take the Wilder fight because he was obviously not confident enough that he could beat Wilder.

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    • yammy25
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      #82
      Originally posted by Sugarhitman
      Dude, Fury could have fought Wilder and won the WBC strap and then faced Wlad in a unification bout as it was known that Wlad wanted to add that belt to his collection....Fury didnt take the Wilder fight because he was obviously not confident enough that he could beat Wilder.
      You are talking absolute waffle.

      If Fury went for that belt he vacates his mandatory position for Klitschko. Klitschko is then forced to face somebody else in Furys mando position, and then another mando from the other sanctioning bodies of which he holds a belt.

      If at that point in time.. you think somebody like Tyson Fury was confident he could outbox Wladimir Klitschko who is technically sound and extremely powerful but wasnt confident he could beat Deontay Wilder.. who's only plus over Klitscko is one punch power.. you are insane.

      Nobody in the world in Tyson Furys shoes at that stage thinks " hmmm i can beat Wlad, the decade reigning, heavy hitting technical king of the HW division, but i cant beat windmill wilder who has as much technical ability as I have in my left nut and only posseses a ****ing right hand i can negate through size and reach advantage"

      Gimme a break. I know you like Wilder and support him to the hilt, but dont throw reasoning out the window to this extent.

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        #83
        He is just a paper champ... Joshua-wlad winner should be considered the champ if no fury

        But I have seen worse: bruce seldon, John Ruiz, valuev, buster, old ass Oleg maskev

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        • Sugarhitman
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          #84
          Originally posted by yammy25
          You are talking absolute waffle.

          If Fury went for that belt he vacates his mandatory position for Klitschko. Klitschko is then forced to face somebody else in Furys mando position, and then another mando from the other sanctioning bodies of which he holds a belt.

          If at that point in time.. you think somebody like Tyson Fury was confident he could outbox Wladimir Klitschko who is technically sound and extremely powerful but wasnt confident he could beat Deontay Wilder.. who's only plus over Klitscko is one punch power.. you are insane.

          Nobody in the world in Tyson Furys shoes at that stage thinks " hmmm i can beat Wlad, the decade reigning, heavy hitting technical king of the HW division, but i cant beat windmill wilder who has as much technical ability as I have in my left nut and only posseses a ****ing right hand i can negate through size and reach advantage"

          Gimme a break. I know you like Wilder and support him to the hilt, but dont throw reasoning out the window to this extent.


          Wlad may have been the best of this era, but he was old, gun shy and timid....Wilder is young, hungry and bloodthirsty, very different mentalities between Wlad and Wilder....and I believe Fury knew that which is why he didnt accept to fight Wilder....Its also the same reason Anthony Joshua declined to fight Wilder and instead pursued Wlad.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Sugarhitman
            Wlad may have been the best of this era, but he was old, gun shy and timid....Wilder is young, hungry and bloodthirsty, very different mentalities between Wlad and Wilder....and I believe Fury knew that which is why he didnt accept to fight Wilder....Its also the same reason Anthony Joshua declined to fight Wilder and instead pursued Wlad.
            You believe what you want to believe pal. I put my stock in the business side of this sport rather than whom i prefer.

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            • The Smash
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              #86
              Wilder is a disgrace to this sport.

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                #87
                There have been a lot of terrible title reigns throughout the many years of boxing.

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                • Kigali
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Sugarhitman
                  Wlad may have been the best of this era, but he was old, gun shy and timid....Wilder is young, hungry and bloodthirsty, very different mentalities between Wlad and Wilder....and I believe Fury knew that which is why he didnt accept to fight Wilder....Its also the same reason Anthony Joshua declined to fight Wilder and instead pursued Wlad.
                  Wilder brings excitement to the division.....for a change.

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                  • Kigali
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The Smash
                    Wilder is a disgrace to this sport.
                    That best describes that **** in your avi

                    Wilder is always in shaped...he's not a lazy slob like your boy Chavez Jr.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      He is just a paper champ... Joshua-wlad winner should be considered the champ if no fury

                      But I have seen worse: bruce seldon, John Ruiz, valuev, buster, old ass Oleg maskev
                      The whole division is paper.

                      Vlad ain't never been ****...he turned fans away from the division with his timid clinching style.

                      Joshua is too tight....slow and muscle bound..Wilder would find him and stop him.


                      I know you guys don't like Wilder but he can stop anybody in the division.

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