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  • 1g5a22
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    #21
    Originally posted by Xoahr
    Just a friendly reminder that Golovkin is Central Asian, not Eastern European. One is in Europe, but the east side of it, so if you know where Turkey is, it's everything west of Turkey and Russia up to about Poland, where it becomes Central Europe. Classically, west of Berlin was Western Europe. There's also Northern Europe, aka Scandinavia, and Southern Europe which is everything below Switzerland.

    With me so far?

    Central Asia is on the other side of Turkey - the opposite direction from Eastern Europe. You go past the Levantine Middle East, and then when you hit Iraq/Afghanistan, but not quite Pakistan, you go north to countries not many people have heard of, probably including your ignorant @ss like Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.

    Golovkin is from a really big country in that area called Kazakhstan, which borders the southern side of Russia all the way from the Caspian sea to Mongolia and China.

    Do you get the idea? Eastern Europe is quite far away from Central Asia. It is like calling an Icelandic boxer from Reykjavik an American boxer from Washington DC.
    Golovkin is Eurasian. An admixture of Russian (EE) & Korean. He was also forged in the cauldrons of the soviet implemented amateur programme too. Kazakhstan is a former soviet nation. It is fair to label him under the loose term of EE really.

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    • TripleGFightFan
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      #22
      Originally posted by 1g5a22
      Sorry but you said ALL! Povetkin is one fighter! EE's are all over the sport nowadays:

      HW: WK, Pulev. Clean.

      CW: Lebedev, Glowacki, Usyk. Wlodarczyk, Kudryashov All clean to date. (Leb & Kudryashov both fell victim to ped users in fact!)

      LHW: Kovalev, Bivol, Beterbiev, Gvodzyk, Fonfara. All clean to date.

      SMW: Abraham, Chudinov. Clean to date.

      MW: Golovkin (half EE) Pirog, Khytrov, Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Clean to date.

      WW: Konstantin Ponomarev, Egidijus Kavaliauskas, Taras Shelestyuk. Clean to date.

      LWW: Viktor Postal, Eduard Troyanovsky, Ruslan Provodnikov. Clean to date.

      LW: Ivan Redkach, Denis Shafikov. Clean to date.

      FW: Lomachenko, Kamil Łaszczyk. Clean to date.

      Etc etc..

      In fact if you look at the boxers busted for PEDS over recent years they are disproportionally American. Mosley, Toney, Tarver, Peterson, Berto, Vargas, Jones Jr.. Mexicans too like Salido & Morales! Look at the guys busted recently they aren't just EE you know! G. Jones, Ortiz, Wach & Durodola! That's not ALL EE is it? So stop talking **** & exposing your own agenda & bias..

      So if you want to tar ALL EE's as ped abusers too then do so with ALL Americans too because the evidence suggests it is endemic in the US whether caught or not.
      ummm...stopped reading after WK...it's well known him and his brother used
      PEDS...

      "Klitschko has consistently refused to volunteer for any additional testing above and beyond what is required of him by the organizations sanctioning the sport.Pulev's demands for voluntary testing by Klitschko will go unfollowed as Klitschko will only comply with the German Boxing Federation's requirement of post-fight testing on September 6, 2014.

      Alexander Povetkin had previously made the same demands for WADA-style testing as Pulev in advance of his challenge for Klitschko's WBA/IBF/WBO/IBO titles on October 5, 2013. Klitschko did not give in to the demands and followed only the minimum requirements for anti-doping testing. Povetkin lost to Klitschko in a unanimous decision.

      Klitschko's brother Vitali – a champion boxer in his own right – defended his brother's refusal to subject himself to additional testing; Vitali cited Wladimir's adherence to stringent anti-doping rules of the WBF.

      "Wladimir has to fight Povetkin because of the IBF and he will take any tests under the rules of the World Boxing Federation,” Vitali said in a statement on behalf of his brother. “The tests are sent to an international sports laboratory in Cologne, which is one of the most modern in the world. If someone has any doubts, let them go send letters to [the lab] to investigate"

      Given Vladimir's dominance in the sports, questions of steroid use were inevitable. However, there has been no firm evidence to implicate Klitschko; there have only been rumors and speculation.

      Klitschko has never failed an anti-doping test. The best evidence – which is not much better than no evidence at all – is the fact that Klitschko has refused WADA-style testing, the unsubstantiated (and joking) claim by David Haye that Klitschko's hospitalization for kidney stones was related to his steroid use and brother Vitali's dismissal from the 1996 Ukrainian Olympic team after he tested positive for a banned substance that was provided by his doctor for an injury.While Klitschko has been heavily criticized for refusing additional testing, he is under no obligation to do anything more than follow the rules of his sport.

      Source:

      Freitag, K. (June 26, 2014). Pulev demands that Klitschko take doping test. Retrieved from //www.*********.com/Boxing/klitschko-pulev-kickoff-press-conference-250735


      Boxing: Klitschko admits steroid abuseBy Bob Mee
      12:01AM GMT 02 Nov 2004
      Vitali Klitschko, who defends his World Boxing Council heavyweight title against Britain's Danny Williams in Las Vegas on Dec 11, has admitted to having used steroids earlier in his career.He tested positive for a banned substance in 1996 when still an amateur and was instantly thrown off the Ukrainian boxing team for the Atlanta Olympics.

      Klitschko had planned to box at super-heavyweight while his younger brother, Wladimir, was entered to compete at the 201lb heavyweight limit.

      Wladimir, who was struggling to make his weight, took over the super-heavyweight slot and went on to win the gold medal.

      "Their dream was to go to the Olympics and win gold medals together," said Vitali Klitschko's spokesman, Bernd Boente.

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      • KLockard23
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        #23
        The fact that he hits way harder than the normal person his size just says something unique about him as an individual, not that he must be using something. Stop being ******ed.

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          #24
          Originally posted by 1g5a22
          Sorry but you said ALL! Povetkin is one fighter! EE's are all over the sport nowadays:

          HW: WK, Pulev. Clean.

          CW: Lebedev, Glowacki, Usyk. Wlodarczyk, Kudryashov All clean to date. (Leb & Kudryashov both fell victim to ped users in fact!)

          LHW: Kovalev, Bivol, Beterbiev, Gvodzyk, Fonfara. All clean to date.

          SMW: Abraham, Chudinov. Clean to date.

          MW: Golovkin (half EE) Pirog, Khytrov, Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Clean to date.

          WW: Konstantin Ponomarev, Egidijus Kavaliauskas, Taras Shelestyuk. Clean to date.

          LWW: Viktor Postal, Eduard Troyanovsky, Ruslan Provodnikov. Clean to date.

          LW: Ivan Redkach, Denis Shafikov. Clean to date.

          FW: Lomachenko, Kamil Łaszczyk. Clean to date.

          Etc etc..

          In fact if you look at the boxers busted for PEDS over recent years they are disproportionally American. Mosley, Toney, Tarver, Peterson, Berto, Vargas, Jones Jr.. Mexicans too like Salido & Morales! Look at the guys busted recently they aren't just EE you know! G. Jones, Ortiz, Wach & Durodola! That's not ALL EE is it? So stop talking **** & exposing your own agenda & bias..

          So if you want to tar ALL EE's as ped abusers too then do so with ALL Americans too because the evidence suggests it is endemic in the US whether caught or not.
          umm stopped reading after Klitschko...everyone knows they "used" during their olympic run...you think those muscles came from weights only?

          Boxing: Klitschko admits steroid abuseBy Bob Mee
          12:01AM GMT 02 Nov 2004
          Vitali Klitschko, who defends his World Boxing Council heavyweight title against Britain's Danny Williams in Las Vegas on Dec 11, has admitted to having used steroids earlier in his career.He tested positive for a banned substance in 1996 when still an amateur and was instantly thrown off the Ukrainian boxing team for the Atlanta Olympics.

          Klitschko had planned to box at super-heavyweight while his younger brother, Wladimir, was entered to compete at the 201lb heavyweight limit.

          Wladimir, who was struggling to make his weight, took over the super-heavyweight slot and went on to win the gold medal.

          "Their dream was to go to the Olympics and win gold medals together," said Vitali Klitschko's spokesman, Bernd Boente.

          The klits dreams were to win gold medals via steroids...like brother like brother

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          Klitschko has consistently refused to volunteer for any additional testing above and beyond what is required of him by the organizations sanctioning the sport.Pulev's demands for voluntary testing by Klitschko will go unfollowed as Klitschko will only comply with the German Boxing Federation's requirement of post-fight testing on September 6, 2014.Alexander Povetkin had previously made the same demands for WADA-style testing as Pulev in advance of his challenge for Klitschko's WBA/IBF/WBO/IBO titles on October 5, 2013. Klitschko did not give in to the demands and followed only the minimum requirements for anti-doping testing. Povetkin lost to Klitschko in a unanimous decision.Klitschko's brother Vitali – a champion boxer in his own right – defended his brother's refusal to subject himself to additional testing; Vitali cited Wladimir's adherence to stringent anti-doping rules of the WBF.

          "Wladimir has to fight Povetkin because of the IBF and he will take any tests under the rules of the World Boxing Federation,” Vitali said in a statement on behalf of his brother. “The tests are sent to an international sports laboratory in Cologne, which is one of the most modern in the world. If someone has any doubts, let them go send letters to [the lab] to investigate"

          Given Vladimir's dominance in the sports, questions of steroid use were inevitable. However, there has been no firm evidence to implicate Klitschko; there have only been rumors and speculation.

          Klitschko has never failed an anti-doping test. The best evidence – which is not much better than no evidence at all – is the fact that Klitschko has refused WADA-style testing, the unsubstantiated (and joking) claim by David Haye that Klitschko's hospitalization for kidney stones was related to his steroid use and brother Vitali's dismissal from the 1996 Ukrainian Olympic team after he tested positive for a banned substance that was provided by his doctor for an injury.While Klitschko has been heavily criticized for refusing additional testing, he is under no obligation to do anything more than follow the rules of his sport.

          Source:

          Freitag, K. (June 26, 2014). Pulev demands that Klitschko take doping test. Retrieved from //www.*********.com/Boxing/klitschko-pulev-kickoff-press-conference-250735

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          • 1g5a22
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            #25
            Originally posted by TripleGFightFan
            umm stopped reading after Klitschko...everyone knows they "used" during their olympic run...you think those muscles came from weights only?

            Boxing: Klitschko admits steroid abuseBy Bob Mee
            12:01AM GMT 02 Nov 2004
            Vitali Klitschko, who defends his World Boxing Council heavyweight title against Britain's Danny Williams in Las Vegas on Dec 11, has admitted to having used steroids earlier in his career.He tested positive for a banned substance in 1996 when still an amateur and was instantly thrown off the Ukrainian boxing team for the Atlanta Olympics.

            Klitschko had planned to box at super-heavyweight while his younger brother, Wladimir, was entered to compete at the 201lb heavyweight limit.

            Wladimir, who was struggling to make his weight, took over the super-heavyweight slot and went on to win the gold medal.

            "Their dream was to go to the Olympics and win gold medals together," said Vitali Klitschko's spokesman, Bernd Boente.

            The klits dreams were to win gold medals via steroids...like brother like brother

            ===============================


            Klitschko has consistently refused to volunteer for any additional testing above and beyond what is required of him by the organizations sanctioning the sport.Pulev's demands for voluntary testing by Klitschko will go unfollowed as Klitschko will only comply with the German Boxing Federation's requirement of post-fight testing on September 6, 2014.Alexander Povetkin had previously made the same demands for WADA-style testing as Pulev in advance of his challenge for Klitschko's WBA/IBF/WBO/IBO titles on October 5, 2013. Klitschko did not give in to the demands and followed only the minimum requirements for anti-doping testing. Povetkin lost to Klitschko in a unanimous decision.Klitschko's brother Vitali – a champion boxer in his own right – defended his brother's refusal to subject himself to additional testing; Vitali cited Wladimir's adherence to stringent anti-doping rules of the WBF.

            "Wladimir has to fight Povetkin because of the IBF and he will take any tests under the rules of the World Boxing Federation,” Vitali said in a statement on behalf of his brother. “The tests are sent to an international sports laboratory in Cologne, which is one of the most modern in the world. If someone has any doubts, let them go send letters to [the lab] to investigate"

            Given Vladimir's dominance in the sports, questions of steroid use were inevitable. However, there has been no firm evidence to implicate Klitschko; there have only been rumors and speculation.

            Klitschko has never failed an anti-doping test. The best evidence – which is not much better than no evidence at all – is the fact that Klitschko has refused WADA-style testing, the unsubstantiated (and joking) claim by David Haye that Klitschko's hospitalization for kidney stones was related to his steroid use and brother Vitali's dismissal from the 1996 Ukrainian Olympic team after he tested positive for a banned substance that was provided by his doctor for an injury.While Klitschko has been heavily criticized for refusing additional testing, he is under no obligation to do anything more than follow the rules of his sport.

            Source:

            Freitag, K. (June 26, 2014). Pulev demands that Klitschko take doping test. Retrieved from //www.*********.com/Boxing/klitschko-pulev-kickoff-press-conference-250735
            Citing Povetkin you said ALL EE's.. So which one of those I listed has failed a test? & exactly WHICH test did WK fail?
            Last edited by 1g5a22; 05-27-2016, 08:17 AM.

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            • 1g5a22
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              #26
              Secondly could you provide me with a list of ALL the EE's recently failed, all the US fighters & in fact all the Non EE boxers recently failed? We can compare..

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              • FashionTV
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                #27
                Originally posted by TripleGFightFan
                Pedvetkin!!!...
                pedvetkin? what? what are you talking about?
                you know, povetkin is from russia. gennady is from kazakhstan. i'm wondering do you feel the difference in meaning between these two statements? wake up, moron!!! soviet union collapsed almost 30 years ago. the world has deeply changed.
                the former soviet bloc has ultimately changed. ukraine is not russia. kazakhstan is not ukraine. ukrainians are not russians. latvia is not russia. wake up, moron! HELL russia, ukraine, kazakhstan, latvia, estonia etcetera etcetera are different countries with different traditions, languages, religions, cultural societies, values, and beliefs. you should realize it. stop writing this bull****.

                btw and please, change your fake nickname, moron!

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                • MoneyKing
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                  #28
                  What type of PED testing will they have for Tyson '2Fast' Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 - I would like to know. Wlad hiding something me thinks. ( and no Fury isn't on anything)
                  Last edited by MoneyKing; 05-27-2016, 09:45 AM. Reason: .

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                  • Boxfan83
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by TripleGFightFan
                    With all these eastern euro boxers getting popped for PEDS, how long will it be before Triple G gets busted for PEDS too?...No way he should be hitting harder than heavyweights...
                    Honestly man, I dont like GGG but I have to give the guy credit for 2 things and this plays into why he is strong. For 1 the guy does train like a beast and in Big Bear to top that off. Another thing is I know a lot of us are critical of him of his opponents but he stays active which most modren boxers in this Al Haymon era dont do.

                    Personally I enjoy the strength and conditioning aspect of boxing. High altitude training (Big Bear) is very freaken hard but perfect for any fighter because it not only increases endurance but people that train/live in high altitudes have increased red blood cells. If you notice EPO which is blood doping, is the cheaters way of increasing red blood cells without letting the body do it naturally. So this in itself can explain why he has better strength than guys that train at sea level or dont live in areas of High Altitude. Hell, look at Marquez, he trains in Mexico City which is High as F above sea level and honestly he has better 1 punch power than GGG but the thudding characteristic of their power is the same. They both share another commonality and thats a strong base (legs) which which again comes from High altitude training, when you have strong legs, you naturally let out more testosterone. And if you dont believe me try this, if you are into lifting weights, do some squats before you try your MAX bench press, I guarantee you will lift 5lbs more than if you dont do squats because of the freed testosterone.

                    Also another thing people must consider is (what I pointed out earlier) HIS ACTIVITY. He might not fight the best competition but he stays active and activity compliments his style. Fighters that come forward are not usually the most athletically gifted but please dont get me wrong, they are athletic men, but when I mean athletic, I mean fast twitch muscle athletic. So his activity keeps his timing and accuracy on point. That really is old school boxing, if you notice people compare him to JCC Sr., take a look at JCC Sr.'s record on boxrec, Chavez was always active, hed fight a decent/good name than a can or 2 in between, but those cans helped him stay on point no matter how bad their records were. So you combine his accuracy, timing, & high altitude strength and conditioning, you get a hard hitting fighter like GGG.

                    BUT, I wouldnt be surprised if in this day and age in boxing if he is doing a lil sumtin on the side. lol! But I believe all dudes are innocent until proven guilty and if he has nothing to hide than VADA should be used and if he is the supposed new face of boxing he should take initiative and do it year round...

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                    • MisterPullman
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by FashionTV
                      pedvetkin? what? what are you talking about?
                      you know, povetkin is from russia. gennady is from kazakhstan. i'm wondering do you feel the difference in meaning between these two statements? wake up, moron!!! soviet union collapsed almost 30 years ago. the world has deeply changed.
                      the former soviet bloc has ultimately changed. ukraine is not russia. kazakhstan is not ukraine. ukrainians are not russians. latvia is not russia. wake up, moron! HELL russia, ukraine, kazakhstan, latvia, estonia etcetera etcetera are different countries with different traditions, languages, religions, cultural societies, values, and beliefs. you should realize it. stop writing this bull****.

                      btw and please, change your fake nickname, moron!
                      Green K !!

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