Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao Can Return For Canelo, But Floyd is Bigger Draw

[Spoon23]

That video is trash........:

As expected you'll say that. But did you even bother seeing it? Who connected more and not only more the one who connected the cleaner more effective punches? Not just the pitter patter shots?

I'm assuming after replying to this. You'll say this video is still trash lol

Anyways the point s wether you want to believe Floyd won on this video. What this video proves is it wasn't a lopsided fight. It was a competitive fight through and through. I high speed chess match.

So that said, whether you still think Floyd won. It was a competitive as video proves.

These is the kind of events that sequels or trilogy are drawn from. Close fights. Competitive fights. ATGs of yester years have trilogies, at the least there should have been a rematch.

Pac is entitled for at least one for how questionable this fight was as with all the scandals it is riddled with. IV scandal, shoulder scandal, USADA, nsac scandal. Bayless questionable permission to allow Floyd to hug scandal. Only a fool won't get that nothing was completely settled that night.

Nothing was settled

# I still expect you to say the video is trash even if it is not the case, it may not be perfect, but it shows how much of a close match it was and an argument can be truly made Pac won it.

Cheers!

[Spoon23]

He wasn't close to Floyd's level.

Yup looks like it lmao

[ssc73]

As expected you'll say that. But did you even bother seeing it? Who connected more and not only more the one who connected the cleaner more effective punches? Not just the pitter patter shots?

I'm assuming after replying to this. You'll say this video is still trash lol

Anyways the point s wether you want to believe Floyd won on this video. What this video proves is it wasn't a lopsided fight. It was a competitive fight through and through. I high speed chess match.

So that said, whether you still think Floyd won. It was a competitive as video proves.

These is the kind of events that sequels or trilogy are drawn from. Close fights. Competitive fights. ATGs of yester years have trilogies, at the least there should have been a rematch.

Pac is entitled for at least one for how questionable this fight was as with all the scandals it is riddled with. IV scandal, shoulder scandal, USADA, nsac scandal. Bayless questionable permission to allow Floyd to hug scandal. Only a fool won't get that nothing was completely settled that night.

Nothing was settled

# I still expect you to say the video is trash even if it is not the case, it may not be perfect, but it shows how much of a close match it was and an argument can be truly made Pac won it.

Cheers!

You're right.......it is still trash. It's nine minutes in slow motion. The fight was longer. Talk about cherry picking......LOL

You could put 100 casual fans and 100 hardcore fans in a room with none of them seeing the fight first, play the video you are talking about....and you might convince a few people that Pac won the nine minutes in your highlight vid.......but after showing the entire fight as it happened??

Assuming you could find non-biased fans, you'd have about 10% agree, mostly casuals that don't understand that you do score for defense, controlling space, aka ring generalship, and clean effective punching. Manny landed two good shots......neither did much damage and what's worse, after thinking he had Floyd hurt in the fourth, his ten punch flurry barely landed another shot and he backed away, knowing he hadn't done any real damage.

Get over it.......fights aren't judged by 9 minute slow motion videos.........GTFO.....YDKSAB and still holding onto those highlights because that's all you got.......a few good shots but an EXTREMELY CONVINCING LOSS.......IT WASN'T CLOSE. MANNY DIDN'T SHOW UP.........BOTTOM LINE. AND TO USE AN INJURY EXCUSE?? SHAME ON HIM FOR RIPPING PAYING CUSTOMERS OFF........IF THE INJURY WAS SO BAD, HOW WAS HE ABLE TO THROW RIGHT HOOKS IN THE 12TH WITH THE SAME ENERGY AS THE 1ST??

GET A LIFE.......IF THE REMATCH HAPPENS AND HE'S BEATEN EVEN MORE CONVINCINGLY, THEN WHAT? YOU NEED A LONG, CONSISTENT JAB TO EVEN COMPETE WITH MANNY. HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T GET INSIDE WHERE HE'D HAVE A CHANCE......AND IT WOULD STILL ONLY BE A SMALL CHANCE....

Can't stand Pac Fanatics forcing me to defend Mayweather. I wasn't a huge fan of his.........but I'm capable of setting my personal feelings aside and accepting what happened. Manny lost........badly. Was HBO against him too?? SMDH......

[ssc73]

And keep dreaming with those ridiculous stats......LMAO

Floyd threw 500+ punches....in the just the 2nd, you counted several shots by Manny that grazed the arms and shoulders and didn't count Mayweather punches that actually landed.

It total, you show about 100 shots thrown by Mayweather. Put on all punches by both fighters..........show the full context with Manny looking lost for long stretches in rounds while he was jabbed to the head and stomach (punches that do count) and don't count punches from Manny that don't land clean.

I don't need slow motion to score fights......at best, you might get Manny 1 more round.........but that still makes it 8-4.....which was already generous. It was a very clear 9-3 win for Mayweather......and he never had to take it out of 2nd gear....

[Spoon23]

You're right.......it is still trash. It's nine minutes in slow motion. The fight was longer. Talk about cherry picking......LOL



Get over it.......fights aren't judged by 9 minute slow motion videos.........GTFO.....YDKSAB and still holding onto those highlights because that's all you got.......a few good shots but an EXTREMELY CONVINCING LOSS.......IT WASN'T CLOSE. MANNY DIDN'T SHOW UP.........BOTTOM LINE. AND TO USE AN INJURY EXCUSE?? SHAME ON HIM FOR RIPPING PAYING CUSTOMERS OFF........IF THE INJURY WAS SO BAD, HOW WAS HE ABLE TO THROW RIGHT HOOKS IN THE 12TH WITH THE SAME ENERGY AS THE 1ST??

GET A LIFE.......IF THE REMATCH HAPPENS AND HE'S BEATEN EVEN MORE CONVINCINGLY, THEN WHAT? YOU NEED A LONG, CONSISTENT JAB TO EVEN COMPETE WITH MANNY. HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE AND CAN'T GET INSIDE WHERE HE'D HAVE A CHANCE......AND IT WOULD STILL ONLY BE A SMALL CHANCE....

Can't stand Pac Fanatics forcing me to defend Mayweather. I wasn't a huge fan of his.........but I'm capable of setting my personal feelings aside and accepting what happened. Manny lost........badly. Was HBO against him too?? SMDH......

lol You are capable of setting personal feelings? lol All caps. So angry hehe Oh, obviously you didnt watch it. It's not in slow motion, but I do have the more in depth slow motion version proving it more accurately if you'd like.

Why 9 minutes? it was counting only the punch connects, it was disregarding the hugging and running part of the match which was 99% of what floyd did that night that ate a lot of the time lmao

woozah buddy.. woozah.. I don't want you getting a stroke in here.





Nacho about Floyd: The kid caved. Over defensive on the most important fight of his life.

"He knew he was supported by the judges to give a luck luster fight."

"He (floyd) lost so much credibility"

"the only one throwing punches was Pacquiao"

"how can they gave the rounds to a guy who even looks ridiculous running away scared?"

"or giving hugs to turn off the fight?"




# rematch written all over the place. Floyd needs to redeem himself with this poor display of boxing.

[Spoon23]

And keep dreaming with those ridiculous stats......LMAO

Floyd threw 500+ punches....in the just the 2nd, you counted several shots by Manny that grazed the arms and shoulders and didn't count Mayweather punches that actually landed.

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Oh you mean the fake compubox stats that gave Floyd fake punch connects. The funny thing is even with all that fake punch connects. Floyd still has the least punch output of his entire career lol

case in point:

#This gif shows how inaccurate compubox is and how the eyes can be fooled into thinking who hit who in real time. If you blink you won't catch the punch that really connected in this exchange. Guess who got one in? Yep, it's not floyd it's Pac as always. The right jab went in straight to Floyd's jaw. While again Floyd had to foul and push Pac's head so he can stop Pac from heating up. And as usual the hometown boy gets the point in the compubox.



Compublind, that's another way of putting this manipulation of perception.

Floyd's cowardly excuse for boxing ***** that night, was an exercise of how to rip off boxing fans with their hard earned money, set in the biggest stage of boxing ever.

The architect of the art of run and hug tactics is a recipe for an energy diffusing bore fest fight that should not be associated with the legends of the game who has given us treasures of epic battles to enjoy.

Sadly, Floyd's performance was not one of those. His was designed to create an illusion that running and hugging is enough to win a bout as long as Vegas was on his side nothing was impossible. As we now have witnessed. The biggest sports heist in history happened.

# If someone needs to redeem himself it's Floyd

[Spoon23]

Get over it.......fights aren't judged by 9 minute slow motion ..

Here, you don't like the shorter version were in it only showed punch connects in a non slowmo 9 minute video.

here's a thorough in depth look of who truly won that night. Enjoy. full minutes of every round disputed.


chronicles of the Biggest sports Heist in History

When there is a crime you look at clues of events that transpired.You trace the evidences that are left.

People Lie, but what doesn't lie are evidences trapped in time in a form of a video of the truth that transpired in that strange night of boxing.

It's very obvious when you watch the fight that Mayweather was missing badly, but the judges were counting them.

Slowmo video is meant to show who really connected in that round and who truly deserved it. It is even more accurate because you can tell which punches really connected throughout the fight.

We need to spread this brilliant video so the fans can see who really won the fight. But I knew the fight was a joke from the beginning because Pacquiao wasn't gonna get his hands raised in Vegas.

Here is the truth. The rounds that should have gone to Manny. Rounds that if it were counted correctly. It would have made it 9-4 for Pac,

Since these 5 rounds in these videos were given to floyd, when in fact it shouldnt have.

There are 5 videos, of 8 rounds, rounds 2,3,6,7,8,9,10,12
in these videos.

Rounds 2,3,7,8,12 were given to Floyd unanimously (video disputed)

Rounds 9,10 only 1 judge gave to Floyd (video disputed)

Round 4 and 6 are unanimous to Pac on all 3 judges.

The 7 rounds are in question. If Pac gets the 7 rounds plus the 2 unanimous rounds. It's a 9/3 Pac.

Judge for yourself.

Unbiased video showing all of landed shots of both parties per 3 minute round. Unedited, unspliced round by round documented shots.

Enjoy! Pac was the true winner.

Round 2



Round 3



Round 6,7,8



Those who want to dispute the author's work. Time stamp it and let's discuss, but I assure you it's all there in it's purest form.

Enjoy!

[Spoon23]

4th and 5th videos here:

Floyd about Manny:

When Floyd was asked who was his top three toughest opponent, he was quoted by boxingscene.com: "I can say that none of them were easy. Although I must say that Canelo was tough....Miguel Cotto [was tough]. Manny Pacquiao was very tough. Pacquiao is very good. He was better than I thought."

Round 9,10



Epic round 4. The maestro. @ 1:33




Round 6 @ 1:42

another day @ the school. Floyd learning how to get hit lol

[Spoon23]

.and he never had to take it out of 2nd gear....

lol yeah tell that to Roger Mayweather and Floyd senior.



Roger Mayweather says Floyd has got to beat Manny Again earn respect from boxing fans
http://**********boxing.com/

If you can't link, just go to, on the ropes boxing.com, interview is all there.

Roger Mayweather: Floyd's legacy is going to be good but he needs to close that legacy with Pacquiao. He needs to go back and him and Pacquiao need to do it again. Thats what I think. To close the door in terms of victory, thats what he needs to do.

Jenna J: If Floyd does that, where does that put him amongst the greats?

Roger Mayweather: That would put him amongst the greatest fighters, but Floyd had a good, long legacy anyways. He will be amongst some of the greatest fighters but hes got to close the thing with Pacquiao before he ever does that, because thats one of the known guys that people respect and I think thats the guy that he's gonna have to beat or have to show something with.

Even Roger Mayweather knows Floyd didn't conclude anything that night.


Floyd senior saying to his son his losing. You are losing son!


@ around 2:05 - You are losing son!

@ 2:20 Floyd jr to Floyd Snr.: no matter what I love you.. (ready to lose)

[KLockard23]

If Pacman returned, I'd rather see a fight between he and Canelo than another match with Mayweather. Canelo is a fresh opponent and despite Manny being past it, he can still bring the heat when needed and it'd make for an interesting fight.

lol @ Roach simply aiming for the biggest payday possible.