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  • tiois85
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    #31
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    Khan-Canelo was a massive fight, of course Brook would fight in America for that kind of money. Look at Khan's fights in America prior to that, he wasn't making as much as he was in the UK. Like i said unless it's a massive fight there's no incentive to fight in America for UK fighters.
    You have to have the balls to envisage the incentive.

    Khan moved to the states, fought a stream of names, increased his profile and got a monetary reward along the way, culminating in the canelo fight.

    Plus because of his previous fights he is in a pretty good position still despite a loss, that's the pay off....you do some good work, make some smart moves then get the rewards.

    Degale is doing similar.

    Brook is a bum who hasn't got the balls to fight a live pulse let alone take a risk and go to the states.

    Brooks whole career strategy has hinged on getting the khan fight, why should he get the same or any respect
    Last edited by tiois85; 05-21-2016, 04:26 AM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by tiois85
      You have to have the balls to envisage the incentive.

      Khan moved to the states, fought a stream of names, increased his profile and got a monetary reward along the way, culminating in the canelo fight.

      Plus because of his previous fights he is in a pretty good position still despite a loss, that's the pay off....you do some good work, make some smart moves then get the rewards.

      Degale is doing similar.

      Brook is a bum who hasn't got the balls to fight a live pulse let alone take a risk and go to the states.

      Brooks whole career strategy has hinged on getting the khan fight, why should he get the same or any respect
      Porter is better than any win Khan has had at WW and that was in America. Khan was lucky to get the Canelo fight, he didn't earn it and nobody was asking for it. He increased his profile talking **** about Mayweather it had nothing to do with him fighting in America for less money than he'd get in the UK. UK fighters don't need America the money's in the UK. It's fighters like Vargas you should be talking **** about he was offered 3x his highest pay day to fight Brook and turned it down.

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      • tiois85
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        #33
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        Porter is a better than any win Khan has had at WW and that was in America. Khan was lucky to get the Canelo fight, he didn't earn it and nobody was asking for it. He increased his profile talking **** about Mayweather it had nothing to do with him fighting in America for less money than he'd get in the UK. UK fighters don't need America the money's in the UK. It's fighters like Vargas you should be talking **** about he was offered 3x his highest pay day to fight Brook and turned it down.
        Brook was challenger so he had to fight porter, there's no balls, risk or daring to be great there.

        It's what he did after that counts more, and he just relentlessly proved how his career hinges on khan giving him a shot, anyone who values what s fighter is meant to be should never respect Brooks attitude, just looking for one pay day.

        Khan first of all had the balls to take the big risky fight, something Brook don't have clearly (golovkin lol), so maybe he is lucky to have bigger ball's.

        Khan threw his hat in the ring, made it known he wants big fights, there's no luck there. Goldenboy thought he deserved it, that's what counts.

        And finally, if it's not obvious but a career can be made up of more than one weight class, Brook has fought much longer at ww, so his **** cv at ww is even more inexcusable or are you too thick to see this?

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          #34
          Originally posted by tiois85
          Brook was challenger so he had to fight porter, there's no balls, risk or daring to be great there.

          It's what he did after that counts more, and he just relentlessly proved how his career hinges on khan giving him a shot, anyone who values what s fighter is meant to be should never respect Brooks attitude, just looking for one pay day.

          Khan first of all had the balls to take the big risky fight, something Brook don't have clearly (golovkin lol), so maybe he is lucky to have bigger ball's.

          Khan threw his hat in the ring, made it known he wants big fights, there's no luck there. Goldenboy thought he deserved it, that's what counts.

          And finally, if it's not obvious but a career can be made up of more than one weight class, Brook has fought much longer at ww, so his **** cv at ww is even more inexcusable or are you too thick to see this?
          Lets ignore the fact Khan is blatantly ducking him shall we, which is the biggest fight available for both. Lets ignore the fact Vargas a title holder turned down 3x his highest pay day to fight him shall we. I'm sure if Brook was offered the same kind of pay day he'd fight Canelo too, he'd be crazy not to. Fighting in America for less money isn't ballsy, it's ******.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
            Lets ignore the fact Khan is blatantly ducking him shall we, which is the biggest fight available for both. Lets ignore the fact Vargas a title holder turned down 3x his highest pay day to fight him shall we. I'm sure if Brook was offered the same kind of pay day he'd fight Canelo too, he'd be crazy not to. Fighting in America for less money isn't ballsy, it's ******.
            Not that I need validation, but you didn't refute anything in my previous post.

            Let me put this to you in another way,you might need to think for a second here...

            If Brook wasn't all about getting a payday from khan he should absolutely jump at the chance of getting a 10 to 20% cut from khan, because it's the exact same reason you reckon Vargas should take the Brook fight; it would be a few multiples higher than his previous biggest pay day.

            Don't you see how moronic your own contradictions are?

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              #36
              Originally posted by tiois85
              Not that I need validation, but you didn't refute anything in my previous post.

              Let me put this to you in another way,you might need to think for a second here...

              If Brook wasn't all about getting a payday from khan he should absolutely jump at the chance of getting a 10 to 20% cut from khan, because it's the exact same reason you reckon Vargas should take the Brook fight; it would be a few multiples higher than his previous biggest pay day.

              Don't you see how moronic your own contradictions are?
              How much do you think the Vargas fight would make? Brook wouldn't be making much more because Vargas is an unknown. If it was in America like clowns want Brook to fight they wouldn't make half.

              You are the one contradicting yourself, saying Brook should fight better opposition and then defending them ducking.

              I forgot about Danny Garcia who wants $5 million to fight Brook, pricing himself out, lets ignore that shall we.

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              • tiois85
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                #37
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                How much do you think the Vargas fight would make? Brook wouldn't be making much more because Vargas is an unknown. If it was in America like clowns want Brook to fight they wouldn't make half.

                You are the one contradicting yourself, saying Brook should fight better opposition and then defending them ducking.

                I forgot about Danny Garcia who wants $5 million to fight Brook, pricing himself out, lets ignore that shall we.
                I don't even understand the point you are trying to make, terribly communicated.

                If it holds true that vargas should accept the Brook fight because it's meant to be 3x higher than his previous highest payday then the same is true for Brook, he should take 10% cut from the khan fight.

                So let be more emphatic, a 10% cut for Brook is really generous if he fights khan, which btw won't happen cos Brook is a tasteless classless simpleton with his tweet when khan was out.

                Brook has no balls to take ANY risk.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tiois85
                  I don't even understand the point you are trying to make, terribly communicated.

                  If it holds true that vargas should accept the Brook fight because it's meant to be 3x higher than his previous highest payday then the same is true for Brook, he should take 10% cut from the khan fight.

                  So let be more emphatic, a 10% cut for Brook is really generous if he fights khan, which btw won't happen cos Brook is a tasteless classless simpleton with his tweet when khan was out.

                  Brook has no balls to take ANY risk.
                  Why would he accept 10% when he's a large part of the draw to UK fans? Vargas would be getting at least 30% and is a small part of the draw. You make no ****ing sense.

                  Khan's the one without balls. If he loses to a UK fighter he's finished on the world scene, if you aren't even the best WW from the UK what are you on the world scene? He took a fight anyone at WW not named Mayweather and Pacquiao would have taken in a heartbeat and somehow he's now the guy with the biggest balls? GTFO
                  Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 05-21-2016, 05:30 AM.

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                  • tiois85
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    Why would he accept 10% when he's a large part of the draw to UK fans? Vargas would be getting at least 30% and is a small part of the draw. You make no ****ing sense.
                    But that 10% is still multiples more than his previous biggest payday, so money from 10% should be no problem at all, that's what you are telling Vargas no?

                    So please answer, what does he want, the cashout payday or the fight?

                    If he wants the fight he takes 10% and should be delighted it's his biggest payday.

                    And btw no one knows kell Brook in the UK.

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                    • tiois85
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                      #40
                      In response to your edit; khan does not NEED Brook from a financial perspective, let me repeat, he does not NEED Brook.

                      Brook clearly needs khan from a monetary perspective.

                      So since Brook is a gutless, crass bum. khan is simply saying access denied, earn your paydays with more risk. Brook has no intelligent response to this.


                      End of the day, Khan got canelo, face it. Lets wait for golovkin Brook hahahahahahahahah

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