If Pound-For-Pound didn't exist, would GGG be Getting as Much Hate?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I remember that a few years ago, GGG was a beast that nobody wanted to fight. His star began rising but the competition wasn't mind blowing. Still, he was fun to watch and was rolling over world-ranked contenders. Pretty positive stuff from most fans.

But when Ring magazine elevated him up the pound for pound list, a lot of hate started to come out then. It seemed like he was no longer a compliment to the sport, but some seemed threatened that he might actually hold some sway over big fights. To me, this is one key factor in all the hatred that now comes his way.

Any thoughts?

[Razcal26]

Nah.

People are just tired of the BS. No one wants to hear the narrative that HBO are trying to make with this guy. No one wants to hear the BS his trainer spews. No one wants to hear his new die-hard fans come up with excuse after excuse for this guy.

I myself, am just tired of this. Don't hate the guy (why would I hate someone I don't know?) but I'm not interested in the narrative surrounding him.

Nothing to do with P4P.

[therealpugilist]

Nah.

People are just tired of the BS. No one wants to hear the narrative that HBO are trying to make with this guy. No one wants to hear the BS his trainer spews. No one wants to hear his new die-hard fans come up with excuse after excuse for this guy.

I myself, am just tired of this. Don't hate the guy (why would I hate someone I don't know?) but I'm not interested in the narrative surrounding him.

Nothing to do with P4P.

^^^^^^the way I feel. Talented fighter but I want to see more substance(better opposition) than style and hype(kos).

its gotten really annoying hearing the same lame excuses daily.

[koolkc107]

Folks want to see him do what his hype says he can.

We've heard "154 to 168" for what seems like forever.

BUT HE HAS NEVER FOUGHT OUTSIDE 160.

He just had what would have been his biggest payday go up in smoke because he wouldn't do 155 for the guy that got beat by the guy he tells everyone he would do 154 for.

He has all the signs of greatness but he won't reach for true greatness in the ring.

And some folks are tired of it.

[sicko]

What Hate? People just want to see him vs better competition that is not hate. Are people not tearing Canelo apart for not fighting GGG? We bash every other fighter when they have a **** resume, why should GGG get a pass? Nobody remember when Chavez Jr was the WBC Middleweight Champion and the backlash he was getting for stalling with the Sergio Martinez fight

Sorry but I been watching boxing much longer than the Pacquiao/Mayweather ERA so hype to me means NOTHING, you have to win me over IN THE RING no based on what people Tweet or post on a Boxing Forum about you!

[Tony Trick-Pony]

What Hate? People just want to see him vs better competition that is not hate. Are people not tearing Canelo apart for not fighting GGG? We bash every other fighter when they have a **** resume, why should GGG get a pass? Nobody remember when Chavez Jr was the WBC Middleweight Champion and the backlash he was getting for stalling with the Sergio Martinez fight

Sorry but I been watching boxing much longer than the Pacquiao/Mayweather ERA so hype to me means NOTHING, you have to win me over IN THE RING no based on what people Tweet or post on a Boxing Forum about you!

Yes and the boxing world has definitely changed. Pound-for-pound used to really not matter, but given the heavyweights moving to Europe, I think it was natural to resort to that in order to define who the man is in the sport. And yes, social media has brought out a lot more feelings expressed about it between people who don't know each other on the net. Some good and some bad.

I agree that the best must face the best. I think fault falls on both sides, but this guy has been avoided a lot. The number of belts has made his much more possible, but now that he's got most of them, his competition should improve by elimination if nothing else.

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pound 4 pound doesn't exist it's imaginary

I don't know how hated he is or isn't but he has to work harder since Khazakistan doesn't exactly have a huge boxing fanbase.

If he were mexican, black american, philipino, british or even had stronger ties to germany (the way wlad an sturm became honorary germans) he would be considered more financially appealing and sturm/sergio/cotto/canelo/quillin/etc would have probably fought him. But they looked at him and saw a 100% risk for a 50% pay cut.

He's been forced to say "Mexican style" every time there's a camera around because they know he needs to become an honorary something to get fights.

[Larry the boss]

We just want to see the man fight better comp..thats all

[CaneloMaidana]

pound 4 pound doesn't exist it's imaginary

I don't know how hated he is or isn't but he has to work harder since Khazakistan doesn't exactly have a huge boxing fanbase.

If he were mexican, black american, philipino, british or even had stronger ties to germany (the way wlad an sturm became honorary germans) he would be considered more financially appealing and sturm/sergio/cotto/canelo/quillin/etc would have probably fought him. But they looked at him and saw a 100% risk for a 50% pay cut.

He's been forced to say "Mexican style" every time there's a camera around because they know he needs to become an honorary something to get fights.

I don't see much hate for Golovkin.

Wilder has a higher KO percentage and is Black. He is also 4 years younger. He is despised on here.

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I don't see much hate for Golovkin.

Wilder has a higher KO percentage and is Black. He is also 4 years younger. He is despised on here.

One has made repeated attempts at unifying their division while their opponents openly backed out -- not some theory, they openly refused to fight him one after another.

One has targeted the worst available opponents in a fairly stacked division repeatedly and just backed out of his first real test the first chance he got over an inconclusive drug testing postponement.

You tell me which is which.

You are a Canelo fan so please, just admit people root for their homeboy. Nobody else would be a Canelo fan anymore. He just fought Amir Khan then vacated the belt. He has no boxing-derived fans left.