Comments Thread For: Nacho Feels Canelo Made Right Move With Gennady Golovkin

[PulpFriction]

Nacho keeping it real as usual

[Gigantes]

Hall of Fame trainer Nacho Beristain, who is best known for training four division world champion Juan Manuel Marquez, says Saul 'Canelo' Alavrez (47-1-1, 33KOs) made the right decision in vacating his belt.

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since that's the case, people should just not buy any more. Then, we'll see how good business is.

[KLockard23]

Canelo is 100% bi*ch-made.

[Luilun]

lol all these mexicans bring excuses for their ginger ducking ggg

He's not ready for someone like GGG would you put Spence in with Canelo ?

[- Ram Raid -]

They thought it would have been a very punishing loss that could have derailed his career. Kinda like Vargas vs Trinidad, but probably more one sided

You know, if that's the case, then I can get with that. If they're thinking that their guy is actually going to take a serious beating and not just be beaten. But don't have the guy up in the ring and say we can do it right now, that if he thinks I've got no balls then he can come and have a feel! . . . Just point out that you were only ever in the division for Cotto who himself isn't a middleweight and that GGG is too big. Whether or not people would find that valid is another matter because they're probably not that far off each other weight wise when they step in the ring.

You guys need to stop defending Canelo. There is no promoter that can force a fighter not to accept a mandatory fight. That's impossible. You could easily sue your promoter if they tried to do that.


Canelo is the one ducking. This is the same guy that has fought 6 or more cathweights in his career, and he's only 26 years old.

Here's a list of his cw

Mathew Hatton at 150lbs
Floyd Mayweather at 152lbs
Austin Trout at 155lbs
Erislandi Lara at 155lbs
Miguel Cotto at 155lbs
Amir Khan at 155lbs

That's siz cw at age 26, all of them against smaller guys.

More proof he's a coward is that he actually complained right after signing the Cotto contract that he wanted the Cotto fight at 156lbs, yet after fighting Cotto, he then said his weight is 155lbs and GGG has to come down to 155lbs to fight him.

How can anyone defend this piece of ****! Always fighting smaller guys at cw, always ducking guys who are the same size.

Can't believe he just pulled a Cotto and his fans, the same ones who dissed Cotto for vacating, are now defending the same ****. No shame whatsoever.

Let this be a lesson for the wbc though, don't allow these ******* to pay/accept step aside cash when their mandatories are due, coz clearly they have no intentions of fulfilling said mandatory.

The way I worded the post may have given the impression that I was trying to absolve Canelo of any blame. That wasn't my intention. Ultimately it's for him to make the decision but all boxers are swayed by what their advisors tell them because ultimately they're the ones that guide the boxers career.

From the off my main concern about Alvarez is that I thought that he lacked punching power for a guy of his build. That that was the one thing missing that could potentially stop him being on another level. I see the catch weights as a concerted effort to make him look more of an exciting puncher and thus more marketable. For me that decision has originated with De La Hoya.

I agree with your last point. If they had any intention of fighting Golovkin then they wouldn't have chosen Khan for the interim bout. They would have prepared for the mandatory by fighting a 160lb fighter at 160lb.

[Jsmooth9876]

Sadly, this is what boxing has become and what it's been since Floyd became the PPV star... Fight guys when it makes sense for you, not for the fans...

Oscar fought everyone and when they were in their primes. Win or lose he fought them... Now he's protecting his cash cow from losing....

I think Canelo wants the fight personally but Oscar is not gonna let this one happen for the sake of his company... Not any time soon anyway...

[sterilizer]

So he's basically saying Canelo is just a money making gimmick that needs to be protected, that's definitely what they are going for it seems. They all claim Canelo is a giant superstar but nobody has any confidence in him to win, what a sad situation for Canelo, who now looks like a bigger clown than he did choosing the Khan fight.

That's in essence the idea, but that is RIGHT NOW. They made a bad decision career-wise making him fight Floyd when he was a kid, not to mention he had to drain himself to 152, looking like a corpse in the weigh-in. But money-wise it secured his financial future. So they went for it. I really don't think that at this point, a GGG-Canelo fight would get even half the money the Floyd-Canelo fight made. But career-wise, an embarrassing KO would ruin Canelo's career and his so-called "legacy".

At this point, GGG is in his prime and in his division he is by far the most dangerous and avoided guy. But he is not getting any younger. Meanwhile Canelo, at only 25, is not yet in his prime (if he ever gets there) and we all know, even his die-hard fans and himself, that again, AT THIS POINT, he would be KO'd by Golovkin, even if he drained him to 155.

I don't think it will be the same situation in about two years or so. GGG will be more aged, more beaten, way less confident. Canelo OTOH if he is managed right, will be way more experienced and confident.

But the problem is, why can't people be honest and say the truth?

Both De la Hoya and Canelo himself should publicly say "at this point in both fighter's careers, Canelo would be beaten by triple G at 160 for sure, it is not fair that we have to fight GGG in his prime, when Canelo is not in his yet and he has never fought even once at 160. We jeopardized his future once, making him fight Floyd when he was far from ready for it, we don't want to make the same mistake now."

Just admit YOU KNOW Canelo would lose at this point, easily if the fight would take place at 160, and maybe put up some kind of a fight with a drained GGG at 155. Just admit it! Canelo would lose NOW, we all know it, he is not ready, he took the fight with Mayweather Jr. being EVEN LESS ready than he is for GGG now, because it was a truckload of money that him and his team just couldn't refuse! But a second big embarrassment, and by a total beat-up and most probably a KO, would end his run as a "superstar" for sure. It's just not worth the risk AT THIS MOMENT. WHY NOT BEING HONEST and saying it like it is?

[Shadoww702]

Where was the outrage when mayweather ducked pacquiao for 5years because of ped testing? He only agreed after pacquiao was KO by Marquez. 5years too late and crazy part was he ended up using peds.. That's so messed up

The fight was pretty much signed until Pac said no one the 30 day. I believe Floyd even went down to as low as 8 days but Pac still said no. Then Floyd canned the fight. Basically Floyd said you can do whatever you want but 8 days before the fight were BOTH fair game for Blood and Urine testing. I still remember fools acting like Floyd was gonna break into PACs house in the middle of night to blood test Manny...

[Ray Corso]

Nacho translation..............................GGG hits to hard!

[aboutfkntime]

I have an honest question for you. Outside of a Floyd rematch, which isn't going to happen, what fight for Canelo would generate the highest PPV figures for him right now?

Look, Triple G is definitely the B-side, I make no bones about that, but a fight against him would be the biggest fight, sales-wise that Canelo could make. It would generate big numbers.

A Cotto rematch.

Pacquiao/Cotto are clearly the biggest drawing active fighters.

Golovkin is not a draw, he will attract roughly 100k PPV sales..... whereas Cotto will attract 600k+.

Team Bull**** stated that Ward has to fight some big names and become more of a draw before Gennady " Mr Boxing " Golovkin will fight him.....

..... but I take it that excuse wouldn't fly if Canelo says the same thing to Golovkin, right?