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  • gully7
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    #91
    Originally posted by FrankieBruno
    Fighters can improve, ofcourse

    But Vargas has shown me nothing, apart for beating a chinny pillow fisted prospect in Ali

    There will be testing in this fight, just like there was testing in the Porter fight, so if he is on anything, he will be caught out.

    Vargas isnt a big puncher, he stands and trades, he gets caught flush. Brook hits hard, is physically bigger and stronger, even though Vargas is slightly taller. Vargas to me is suited for the 140 division, i expect him to go down to 140 after he gets knocked out

    I think Vargas was the best option for Brook, ONLY because of the belt, but let's not act like Vargas is something special. I was of the same opinion when Khan said he was a possible opponent for him.
    Why do you think Vargas has been stalling on this fight? Just like Wlad has been doing for the last 4 months with Tyson they take that **** before the testing starts, its not all about the money that's just buying time..

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    • FrankieBruno
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      #92
      Originally posted by gully7
      Spence doesn't need an insurance policy he's backed by Haymon who already has 2 WW champions, Spence has **** load of options. Plus he wont lose his ranking Haymon has plenty of brown envelope's...
      What can Haymon do?

      If Spence agrees to fight Brook without the compulsory IBF mandate.

      Then Brook "developed" another injury and in that time the IBF set another eliminator between Konstantin Ponomarev and some bum.

      Ponomarev wins and the IBF will force Brook to fight him, and Spence loses his IBF spot and his opportunity to fight Brook

      This is what happened with Chaves.

      Brown envelopes? wtf

      I'm talking about a scenario which has already happened

      By the way i am not saying Brook will duck Spence, my point is his team want to go the proper route, so that he is guaranteed 100% a shot without any "if's or but's", can you honestly blame them?

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        #93
        Originally posted by gully7
        Why do you think Vargas has been stalling on this fight? Just like Wlad has been doing for the last 4 months with Tyson they take that **** before the testing starts, its not all about the money that's just buying time..
        Absurd claim, more believable for Brook given what's happened in his camp.

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          #94
          Originally posted by gully7
          Why do you think Vargas has been stalling on this fight? Just like Wlad has been doing for the last 4 months with Tyson they take that **** before the testing starts, its not all about the money that's just buying time..
          He's coming to the UK, he wants to makesure everything is right as far as judges, ref and money

          A lot of Americans have heard horror stories about coming to the UK

          I am sure Brook will request proper testing for this fight, like he did for Porter

          If you recall people were saying Porter was on PED's after he knocked out Paulie.

          The same rumors are out there about Vargas, so i am sure Brook will want the same testing for this fight

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          • gully7
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            #95
            Originally posted by tiois85
            Absurd claim, more believable for Brook given what's happened in his camp.
            What's that supposed to mean? Nothing has happened in his camp.

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            • FrankieBruno
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              #96
              Originally posted by gully7
              What's that supposed to mean? Nothing has happened in his camp.
              He is talking about Brooks training partner/stablemate Kid Galahad, who was recently caught roiding and served a ban

              Both Brook and KG share the same strength coach and trainer. Brook even begged Hearn to put KG on a card because he's like Brooks little brother

              So people are wondering if KG was on the gear, what if Brook has been on it as well? Whats going on in the Ingle camp, one has to wonder.
              Last edited by FrankieBruno; 05-20-2016, 02:02 PM.

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              • tiois85
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                #97
                Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                He is talking about Brooks training partner/stablemate Kid Galahad, who was recently caught roiding and served a ban

                Both Brook and KG share the same strength coach and trainer. Brook even begged Hearn to put KG on a card because he's like Brooks little brother

                So people are wondering if KG was on the gear, what if Brook has been on it as well? Whats going on in the Ingle camp, one has to wonder.
                Yes, Exactly.

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                • gully7
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                  He's coming to the UK, he wants to makesure everything is right as far as judges, ref and money

                  A lot of Americans have heard horror stories about coming to the UK

                  I am sure Brook will request proper testing for this fight, like he did for Porter

                  If you recall people were saying Porter was on PED's after he knocked out Paulie.

                  The same rumors are out there about Vargas, so i am sure Brook will want the same testing for this fight
                  Don't you remember what happened in regards with the testing in the Porter fight? They delayed it as much as poss8ble blaming Hearn and Brook it was total BS, they got there first test about 4 weeks before the fight. Plus the cheats are always ahead of the testers.

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                  • gully7
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                    He is talking about Brooks training partner/stablemate Kid Galahad, who was recently caught roiding and served a ban

                    Both Brook and KG share the same strength coach and trainer. Brook even begged Hearn to put KG on a card because he's like Brooks little brother

                    So people are wondering if KG was on the gear, what if Brook has been on it as well? Whats going on in the Ingle camp, one has to wonder.
                    That happened ages ago, if Brook was taking something he would of been caught by now.

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                    • tiois85
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by gully7
                      That happened ages ago, if Brook was taking something he would of been caught by now.
                      surely you jest?

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