The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

[ADP02]

Ok. Let's get this out of the way. Now pay close attention.

Your claim is that he should be able to shoot buckets because he is left handed. Now look at what the experts have stated.


“We operate on partial tears, too. Go in, clean things up. … At that elite level, it’s six weeks till you’re doing major weight training, and at three months, you could be back playing basketball. It’s a much shorter rehab, and that’s a big deal.”

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/01/nba-kobe-bryant-surgery-options-shoulder-rotator-cuff-injury-tear-los-angeles-lakers

Ok, so partial tears, regardless of whether it's your shooting or non-shooting hand, you can be back to playing basketball in 3 months. Ok. Now keep following me.

Carmelo Anthony, a right handed shooter, suffered a torn labrum and partial rotator cuff tear in his LEFT, non-shooting shoulder. He opted NOT to have surgery and only to rehab, and luckily he was able to continue playing comfortably. However, he had to make the decision on whether to have surgery or not.

The following information is taken from an article titled:
Will Carmelo Anthony Need Surgery, and What Would Rehab Be?

"For Anthony, it is the movement that is most worrisome. While the injury was on his nondominant side, both arms are necessary to the smooth flow of the shot."



"In the most likely scenario, where no anchoring into the bone is necessary, the normal return time is about three months. That's if surgery is even necessary in the first place."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1649300-will-carmelo-anthony-need-shoulder-surgery-and-what-would-rehab-be

So for basketball players with a partial tear, regardless of which shoulder, recovery time is the same. Following? Ok.

Now, Pacquaio had a FULL-THICKNESS ROTATOR CUFF SURGERY where it WAS REQUIRED TO ANCHOR THE LIGAMENT BACK INTO THE BONE. He was shooting at 3 months and returned to FULL-CONTACT BASKETBALL at 5 months. He likely would have returned earlier if possible, because this was his team's SEASON OPENER!!!

KOBE BRYANT who had the same surgery first took a shot at 7 MONTHS. He returned to FULL-CONTACT BASKETBALL at over 8 months!

Once again, in case you missed it:
"For Anthony, it is the movement that is most worrisome. While the injury was on his nondominant side, both arms are necessary to the smooth flow of the shot."

This doesn't even take into account that Pacquiao shoots incorrectly with his right arm going back too far and shooting partially with his right hand.


THE END

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Manny had was not what this guy had.

I have already told you that you cannot come and give one case to disprove unless its to prove that its a possible situation. Apples and oranges.

Please try and try again.

[Robbie Barrett]

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Manny had was not what this guy had.

I have already told you that you cannot come and give one case to disprove unless its to prove that its a possible situation. Apples and oranges.

Please try and try again.

He's been beating you from pillar to post in every reply. Learn to take an L, this is as embarrassing as Pacquiao claiming "I thought i won the pight".

[ADP02]

He's been beating you from pillar to post in every reply. Learn to take an L, this is as embarrassing as Pacquiao claiming "I thought i won the pight".

Says another Floyd fan!

The guy thinks he has facts but ALL are just speculation.


When I debunked his FACT: "Manny was holding a flag 1 month after surgery". Did you say he was beating me from pillar to post?





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[Spoon23]

Says another Floyd fan!

The guy thinks he has facts but ALL are just speculation.


When I debunked his FACT: "Manny was holding a flag 1 month after surgery". Did you say he was beating me from pillar to post?







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Isaac wants to help his fellow comrade. Admirable, but moral support won't help his fellow fl0mo how to ever be logical lol

Can't believe Isaac is green already and his friend TravestyNY who has been here since 2008 is still red lol that's what I call a Travesty, and i really thought Isaac was more ******ed lmao

[Reloaded]

Says another Floyd fan!

The guy thinks he has facts but ALL are just speculation.


When I debunked his FACT: "Manny was holding a flag 1 month after surgery". Did you say he was beating me from pillar to post?





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What fck is wrong with you all YOU have is speculation .

Ask yourself why Manny is being sued and Floyd isnt , a year on and nobody thats official anything is after Floyd or questioning him not even Team Manny or Arum who is a top shelf attorney , fck me if Floyd done anything wrong they would be all over him but they are church silent there is your answer , only a handful of ******ed Manny fanboys are crying because their phoney hero was beat .

I cant believe the sht you come out with go get a life !

[MartinC]

It was legit and Mayweather's camp knew about it.

[travestyny]

WRONG

1) The problem is more than likely this: You take quotes and are not flexible. I can tell that its intentional because you DO NOT TALK THAT WAY WHEN IT COMES TO FLOYD!!!

Believing a doctor?
All doctors and in fact all humans can and do lie. Got that? But did this doctor lie? My reasoning is why would he?

With Manny, we actually have the doctors name and know that he is a very well known doctor who is associated with multiple professional teams. He had more to lose than gain if a lie would come out. So its less likely that lying would be enticing for the doctor. Also, Manny would be getting 2nd opionions from other doctors instead of the doctor in question. If it was a lie, would you not just go to the same doctor instead of having others examine?

Listed among the “Best Doctors in America,” named a “Super Surgeon” by Baseball Prospectus, and voted a “Super Doctor” Dr. Neal S. ElAttrache specializes in orthopedic surgical procedures involving the shoulder, hip and knee and is a member of the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic Board of Directors.

He is active in a number of professional organizations.

He had worked on well know people. For example:
•Tom Brady
•Kobe Bryant
•Russell Westrbrook
•Zack Greinke
•Arnold Schwarzenegger

Southern California Super Doctors 2008 to 2016

So what you are saying is that a doctor that is well known, well respected, and treated famous people would never lie. Is that your stance?

I want to make this clear before I go snooping around. Is that what you are saying? Yes or no? Because I know damn well you said anyone who believes Floyd's doctors is delusional. So let me know if your stance is that this doctor is exempt from your criticism of doctors simply because he is "well known" (though most of us didn't know who he was even after he treated Kobe Bryant) and because he treated some famous people.

Let's set that out now because I don't want you trying to slide out of your stance later.

[travestyny]

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Manny had was not what this guy had.

I have already told you that you cannot come and give one case to disprove unless its to prove that its a possible situation. Apples and oranges.

Please try and try again.

You're right. WHAT MANNY HAD WAS WORSE!!!

Carmelo had a small labrum tear and a rotator cuff tear. Manny had a full thickness rotator cuff tear and a partial thickness rotator cuff tear. Do you need the proof?

"Carmelo Anthony had torn labrum and rotator cuff, decided against surgery"

"All the doctors, we sat down and I just asked them what's the chances if I don't get the surgery, what's going to happen if I do get surgery? If I'd gotten surgery, I probably wouldn't have been able to start the season. I would have been out four to five months due to the severity of the tear that I had.I decided not to do it."

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/320414

Out 4-5 months for a partial rotator cuff surgery if he decided to have it. Manny had a full thickness rotator cuff tear AND a partial thickness rotator cuff tear, yet he was playing basketball at 3 months and returned to full contact basketball at 5 months, possibly earlier if the season started earlier since that was the season opener.

Yea ok. Just ignore the part where the specialist said: While the injury was on his nondominant side, both arms are necessary to the smooth flow of the shot."

Go look up what a labrum is and how it affects shoulder movement, then look up rotator cuff and how it effects shoulder movement. Then try to write with a straight face your bull****. You are ridiculous.

[Dosumpthin]

Adp02 has lost all credibility due to his inability to admit he is wrong on numerous occasions.







Pact@rds are so mentally weak it's pathetic.

[travestyny]

Isaac wants to help his fellow comrade. Admirable, but moral support won't help his fellow fl0mo how to ever be logical lol

Can't believe Isaac is green already and his friend TravestyNY who has been here since 2008 is still red lol that's what I call a Travesty, and i really thought Isaac was more ******ed lmao

Why are you still shopping around this video that I found and started sharing...because THE SPECIALIST SAYS SHE TALKED TO DR. NEAL. ELATTRACHE AND SHE REPORTS BACK THAT IT WAS A PARTIAL ROTATOR CUFF TEAR! Seems one of these specialists was unable to get the story right. I wonder which one...?

You're too ****** to realize you've been shopping around a video that supports my argument, dummy.