The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

[aboutfkntime]

If it's not clear already why they went for full thickness tear....look no further than what that information did to you:



Do you understand now? They gamed you, and you fell for it. You're still falling for it.

Problem is that they left a trail that didn't make sense, and Manny fuvked up because he was itching to play ball instead of pretending to rehab. I can't blame him. Who wants to pretend to rehab a shoulder that doesn't need much rehabilitation?

Let it go, man. It's over now. I'm done with this.

Never !

That pacstain will fight to the death, no matter how ****** he looks.

Seen him do it a dozen times already.

My advice would be, no matter what he says, keep replying with this.....


“I’m fine. It’s God’s work. I never saw a doctor. I never did rehab. All I did was to swim in the sea as often as I could. The salt water healed my wound.”
http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/pos...-recovery.html

[travestyny]

Never !

That pacstain will fight to the death, no matter how ****** he looks.

Seen him do it a dozen times already.

My advice would be, no matter what he says, keep replying with this.....


“I’m fine. It’s God’s work. I never saw a doctor. I never did rehab. All I did was to swim in the sea as often as I could. The salt water healed my wound.”
http://boxingbuzz.sportsblog.com/pos...-recovery.html

He once tried to defend this statement by saying maybe Pacquiao meant his scar was healed by the salt water. You know, those three little dots that we saw due to arthroscopic surgery. lol. He has no shame when defending Pac.

[ADP02]

Op made a thread about manny's injury...not about floyd mayweather. Keep your paranoid delusions about who's a floyd fan and what you think their ulterior motives are to yourself. Does floyd need an excuse to lose a close competitive fight to the best guy in the division in his first fight there? Some may feel he does...i don't. He could have cherry picked a belt from the weakest titleist in the division like another fighter we know did when he moved to 135. *cough cough * david diaz...

Actually Floyd thought Castillo was going to be an easy fight.

and wrong, the TS wanted us to start 2 separate threads. Him one about Manny and me one about Floyd. So like I keep on telling you, this has to do with Floyd .... and I'm sure you know it but you like to deflect. Cough cough.

Floyd is a master of cherry picking and you know it, cough cough, Berto, no name Baldomir, winner of cherry picking Khan or Maidana .... I meant loser of!



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[ADP02]

Random deflection. What's going on with you??????? Lol

Just admit it.

Thanks to travestny the majority of the boxing community can all agree - Team manny has been caught lying about the circumstances surrounding the injury. Not saying he wasnt injured in some form, but they are OBVIOUSLY lying about it.



Looking forward to the next topic.....

Why so many conflicting statements?????

I believe manny has been abusing toradol (and possibly other drugs and PRP treaments) for a while using a nagging injury as a cover and alibi.

Because of the magnitude of the fight, what had become a routine injection, wasn't allowed by NSAC - and it sent a shock wave through manny camp.

So you have all these half truths that don't add up.

Nice try but you do know that several of his supposed facts have been debunked already.

and I see in your post more speculations that you cannot back up. Yet you needed to know all the facts before you can conclude about Floyd's IV scandal. I knew that you guys were not saying the truth and just trying to protect your hero. If you did the same with Manny, then at least you showed some consistency BUT you did not. Not surprised!

[Real King Kong]

Actually Floyd thought Castillo was going to be an easy fight.

and wrong, the TS wanted us to start 2 separate threads. Him one about Manny and me one about Floyd. So like I keep on telling you, this has to do with Floyd .... and I'm sure you know it but you like to deflect. Cough cough.

Floyd is a master of cherry picking and you know it, cough cough, Berto, no name Baldomir, winner of cherry picking Khan or Maidana .... I meant loser of!



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you make everything have to do with floyd cuz you're obsessed, plain and simple.
pact@rd catchphrases: "you're deflecting"...."you're logic is flawed"..."debunked"...and so on. Baldomir was the actual real champ at ww btw. People gave floyd **** for fighting judah...so he beat baldomir. Ww lineage...mosley-forrest-mayorga-spinks-judah-baldomir. I know how much you pact@rds love going on about the lineal titles pac won.

[ADP02]

If it's not clear already why they went for full thickness tear....look no further than what that information did to you:



Do you understand now? They gamed you, and you fell for it. You're still falling for it.

Problem is that they left a trail that didn't make sense, and Manny fuvked up because he was itching to play ball instead of pretending to rehab. I can't blame him. Who wants to pretend to rehab a shoulder that doesn't need much rehabilitation?

Let it go, man. It's over now. I'm done with this.

See, even with me, you are just way off but I'm not surprised. Even with me telling you that I just didn't know much about partial and full thickness tears before this incident but instead, you took my response in another direction. Just like you did with Manny.

Lets face it, you have nothing.

Picture of Manny holding a flag. You used to call that a fact/evidence. It was not enough to say that he was holding it. You had to embellish it and say he was waving it even though you had no evidence of that. Now I debunked it as a fake picture. That should be enough to question your supposed facts.

Swimming: More nothingness. The only thing you have is something that I showed you and its of Manny using his legs.

Basketball. More nothingness. Like the swimming, but now its Manny playing basketball and who is left handed. Meaning the power used when he throws the ball is with his left hand.

So for you, using your legs and left arm is enough facts or do you have something that you still have not shared with us?


As I told you, it would have been better if Manny had a partial tear and had the chance to fight Floyd in 2015 than make up a lie. The lie does not get them anywhere. If Manny cared, it would have been him not me that would have told you that that picture was not of him 1 month after surgery but instead a picture of him BEFORE the fight.

So again, you are wrong. These pretend Floyd internet doctors duped you and you fell for it and cannot climb back out of it.

My point about Floyd's supposed injury was to make you understand how easily that one can get some pictures, gifs, articles and do what you did with Manny. You went as far as to start a thread about it! How can you have posts about swimming but do not even have legit evidence to back up those posts? Its AMAZING that you went that far!


Its funny that I remember similar comments were made about others but with other injured people, you had an excuse for them.

Example: Your response to the below was that they are not talking about Kobe using his injured arm. It didn't say that but my point is, why not think that when reading that Manny was swimming, as an example? Think that Manny was doing some aquatic rehab in the water instead of your imagination going wild and thinking he is training for the Olympics?

"Apr 16, 2015

Kobe is starting to lift weights again, Byron Scott said, "going back to his old way of working out." Might be ahead of schedule a bit? "

[ADP02]

you make everything have to do with floyd cuz you're obsessed, plain and simple.
pact@rd catchphrases: "you're deflecting"...."you're logic is flawed"..."debunked"...and so on. Baldomir was the actual real champ at ww btw. People gave floyd **** for fighting judah...so he beat baldomir. Ww lineage...mosley-forrest-mayorga-spinks-judah-baldomir. I know how much you pact@rds love going on about the lineal titles pac won.

I mentioned 3 cherry picks. You responded with 1. So I guess you agree with the other 2.

but man, now you are defending no-name slow-mo Baldomir? The nerve!

Just because he beat someone who had a title does not make him P4P material. Baldomir is bottom of the barrel as you get. At least you will have me laughing for the rest of my night for defending that cherry pick.

[Real King Kong]

I mentioned 3 cherry picks. You responded with 1. So I guess you agree with the other 2.

but man, now you are defending no-name slow-mo Baldomir? The nerve!

Just because he beat someone who had a title does not make him P4P material. Baldomir is bottom of the barrel as you get. At least you will have me laughing for the rest of my night for defending that cherry pick.

Well I'm not sure if you even followed the sport back then, or if you were a maywether hater...but i did and was. He was widely criticized for going ahead with the judah fight after he'd lost to baldomir...so he fought baldomir. Are you saying he shouldn't have fought baldomir? Just let him be the champion until some lesser skilled opponent knocked him off? It's funny that you point out me not responding to the other "cherrypicks" when your post was in response to mine about pac...and you didn't say anything, just went into a rant about floyd mayweather. I guess you only notice when you think it favors you.

[ADP02]

Well I'm not sure if you even followed the sport back then, or if you were a maywether hater...but i did and was. He was widely criticized for going ahead with the judah fight after he'd lost to baldomir...so he fought baldomir. Are you saying he shouldn't have fought baldomir? Just let him be the champion until some lesser skilled opponent knocked him off? It's funny that you point out me not responding to the other "cherrypicks" when your post was in response to mine about pac...and you didn't say anything, just went into a rant about floyd mayweather. I guess you only notice when you think it favors you.

Why not use that logic when you brought up Diaz? Diaz had just beat Morales and so Manny took on the guy. Manny was moving up in divisions. It was his first fight there. If Manny stayed there and didn't clean up the division, then you had a point but instead Manny continued to move up several more divisions and faced and beat all the guys that he was expected to.


Floyd is another animal and you know that. So you really think that Floyd cares about what others think? Most people knew what time it was but just because you got a few videos of people saying Baldomir, does not mean anything. The thing that makes sense is why fight the loser? But once you fight the loser then why come back and fight slow-mo no-name Baldomir when there were better names out there to put on his resume.

Resume: Remember that Floyd was ready to retire. So why not take on Mosley who said, wait another month or 2 and we can fight? That name would have been nicer to have on the resume than Baldomir.
Or Margarito that was calling him out?




and I do not buy what you are saying. This is how much Floyd cared about all that and facing the best in the division.

"World Boxing Council welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. said recently he will voluntarily hand over his title to Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao if that is what it takes to avoid facing the Filipino boxing icon inside the ring.



“He can have the belt. A belt doesn’t make me,” Mayweather said in a recent media interview.

The pound-for-pound king said he would rather vacate his WBC title than fight the Filipino.

This came after the WBC bosses declared Pacquiao as the No. 1 contender for the division, making him the mandatory challenger for the title now being held by the undefeated American.

But Mayweather refused to cooperate and said he would rather give up his belt than fight Pacquiao, saying the Filipino boxer is not worthy of the shot at his crown.
"


Baldomir?



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[Real King Kong]

Why not use that logic when you brought up Diaz? Diaz had just beat Morales and so Manny took on the guy. Manny was moving up in divisions. It was his first fight there. If Manny stayed there and didn't clean up the division, then you had a point but instead Manny continued to move up several more divisions and faced and beat all the guys that he was expected to.


Floyd is another animal and you know that. So you really think that Floyd cares about what others think? Most people knew what time it was but just because you got a few videos of people saying Baldomir, does not mean anything. The thing that makes sense is why fight the loser? But once you fight the loser then why come back and fight slow-mo no-name Baldomir when there were better names out there to put on his resume.

Resume: Remember that Floyd was ready to retire. So why not take on Mosley who said, wait another month or 2 and we can fight? That name would have been nicer to have on the resume than Baldomir.
Or Margarito that was calling him out?




and I do not buy what you are saying. This is how much Floyd cared about all that and facing the best in the division.

"World Boxing Council welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. said recently he will voluntarily hand over his title to Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao if that is what it takes to avoid facing the Filipino boxing icon inside the ring.



“He can have the belt. A belt doesn’t make me,” Mayweather said in a recent media interview.

The pound-for-pound king said he would rather vacate his WBC title than fight the Filipino.

This came after the WBC bosses declared Pacquiao as the No. 1 contender for the division, making him the mandatory challenger for the title now being held by the undefeated American.

But Mayweather refused to cooperate and said he would rather give up his belt than fight Pacquiao, saying the Filipino boxer is not worthy of the shot at his crown.
"


Baldomir?



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So pac fought diaz cuz he beat Morales...who was coming off 3 losses, without a win at 135? Sorry man, but baldomir was at least campaigning at 147 and had some good wins. I never said anything about floyd doing anything for fans...i was talking about idiots like you criticizing everything he does regardless. When he fought judah, it was "judah lost, why didn't floyd fight the winner?" He fights baldomir, and it's "oh that guy is a bum...he shoulda fought so and so". How can you blame the guy for becoming champion at the weightclass? He did what he was supposed to do. I wasn't exactly a fan of floyd at the time and was disappointed by his retirement...but also had enough sense to no there was no way in hell fights were getting made with any top rank fighters. There's a difference between fights that fans wish would get made and fights that have any serious chance of being made. There were never any real talks for a margarito fight...regardless if floyd was retiring to avoid him or not.

By the way...that quote was from after pac was ko'd by marquez. Why would the wbc make him a mandatory after a ko loss?