The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

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  • ADP02
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    #51
    Originally posted by big_james10
    Fact 1: Pacquaio lost the fight!
    Fact 2: There was no evidence or mention of an injury until Bob Arum mentioned it at the post-fight press conference.
    Fact 3: Pacquaio lost the fight!
    Fact: Manny's team mentioned it BEFORE the fight to NSAC that he had an injury.
    FACT: Meds were prescribed by a doctor and are listed in the pre-fight form.
    FACT: A renowned doctor confirmed that Manny had an injury BEFORE the fight and got worse during the fight.
    FACT: Manny had surgery
    FACT: Floyd fought a one armed fighter that night.

    Also, Manny's S&C confirmed that Manny came back to the corner and did mention it after round 4 and said that his shoulder is done.

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    • Real King Kong
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      #52
      Originally posted by ADP02
      You need to read up then:
      Question: "Does the amount of pain you are having correlate with the size or thickness of your rotator cuff tear?

      Doctor: "The size of the tear usually doesn’t correlate with the pain you are experiencing. Many patients mistakenly believe that they must have a large full thickness rotator cuff tear because they are in severe pain … usually the opposite is true. "

      Doctor: "some patients with mild shoulder pain have massive rotator cuff tears. Bottom line… the size of your tear will not correlate with the amount of pain you are experiencing. Many patients with tendonitis or bursitis have more pain than patients with rotator cuff tears. "


      Just to make you believe, here is Floyd and his team who said that he tore his rotator cuff and said it was all messed up when he fought Castillo.

      Floyd thru more left handed jabs in the fight that he had a torn rotator cuff than in the 2nd fight and other fights. Still think its not possible?

      Mayweather vs Castillo I: Mayweather threw 297 jabs.
      Mayweather vs Castillo II: Mayweather threw only 235 jabs.
      Mayweather vs Judah: only threw 109 jabs.
      Mayweather vs Hatton: Only threw 72 jabs.
      Mayweather vs stationary Baldomir: 200 jabs

      Here is Floyd late in the fight. Now do you believe? lol:


      3 punch combo with his supposedly torn messed up shoulder




      left punch then elevates left elbow and uses it to push off Castillo




      2 left hands by Floyd


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      Interesting...not sure what floyds injury has to do with this. it's amusing the lengths you will go to defend pac. there have been fighters who have fought with rotator cuff tears before, like holyfield and berto...but i still don't believe pac cuz he's a known sore loser.

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      • ADP02
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        #53
        Originally posted by travestyny
        [CENTER][B][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Red"] Manny's Sparring partners:

        Dashon Johnson – Sparring partner
        Before the fight:
        “Manny is looking unbelievable right now and honestly I don’t see the fight going the distance at all.”


        Now, what did he say after the fight?:
        “We were asked not to mention anything to anyone, but yes, Manny got hurt during this camp and his right shoulder and it was messed up pretty bad."
        DEBUNKED #5: Another one of your "evidences" shot down!!!


        BEFORE the fight: Was from an interview on April 3, 2015 or earlier

        INJURY: Manny started missing his sparring sessions about a week later. They also said the injury occurred about 3 weeks prior to the fight not a month.


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        Last edited by ADP02; 05-19-2016, 12:41 AM.

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        • SilverMiles
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          #54
          Dann dude you got slaughtered in your own thread. All that research for nothing.

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            #55
            Originally posted by considerthis
            Why wouldn't people believe it when a surgeon vouched for him? I personally don't believe it cuz I've had a torn rottor cuff and i couldn't throw punches without my body instinctively limiting my motion to protect itself from pain. I know everyone is different but pac didn't show any signs at all. I feel like pac and his whole camp are dishonest...it's not hard for me to doubt him. Anyone with a history of making excuses for losses and not giving his opponent credit, shows a lack of character and it wouldn't be a far stretch to imbelish an injury.
            Originally posted by considerthis
            Interesting...not sure what floyds injury has to do with this. it's amusing the lengths you will go to defend pac. there have been fighters who have fought with rotator cuff tears before, like holyfield and berto...but i still don't believe pac cuz he's a known sore loser.
            DEBUNKED Manny Hater:

            You just proved my point. You went from making it sound like its too hard to even throw a punch because as you said,
            "body instinctively limiting the motion to protect itself from pain"
            to now that you see that FLoyd thru 3 punch combos without any limits in his motion and you talk differently.

            and you talk about dishonesty! You never lie, right?

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            • Tago Nang Tago
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              #56
              how come the only people who doubt pacs shoulder injury are those black power agenda type of dudes?? stop crying because pacquiao got more luv than your boring brotha. they still mad that a tiny asian midget was able to garner so much attention to the sport while floyd was only ever able to reach out to the worldstar crowd.

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              • Tago Nang Tago
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                #57
                sea salt has many healing properties btw,thats why they sell sea salt for you to put in your bath so your body can heal.

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                • travestyny
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SilverMiles
                  Dann dude you got slaughtered in your own thread. All that research for nothing.
                  Well if you said it, it must be true. You know a thing or two about getting slaughtered in your own thread.

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                  • therealpugilist
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                    #59
                    There was no tear. I couldnt play a full game of basketball let alone spar or hit my heavy bag 12 rounds with a rotator cuff strain. I have an abnormal clavicle on the left shoulder that pinches a tendon when I raise my hand past parallel to the ground. I was just born that way but never would have know until I tore my shoulder breaking up a fight. My arm went numb and pain shot through everytime I lifted it past shoulder level.

                    I was advised not to train until my therapy was over and that was 2-3 months. I couldnt hit my heavy bag with full power in my left hand for 5 months and had to take something off

                    this mother****er didnt wince, complain, get a rub down in the fight, didnt mention it in the post fight interview none of that.....either he was injured at all or they exaggerated.

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                    • therealpugilist
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Tago Nang Tago
                      sea salt has many healing properties btw,thats why they sell sea salt for you to put in your bath so your body can heal.

                      " Meh Name is Manny Pacquaio, I hab discobbered a new terapy for ailment. My new patented sea salt terapy. It is the new Epson Salt and woks in no time!"

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