The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

[Spoon23]

Everyone is in agreement here. Manny had a renowned doctor who explained exactly what Manny had. He is the same doctor who is affiliated with numerous high profile professional teams.

If you look up super doctor, they have this doctor's name!!!

Now, who are we to believe, a Floyd fan who hates the fact that Manny was fighting with one arm, or an expert doctor who actually examined Manny before and after the fight and who performed surgery on him?

Kinda easy to know who!



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"He does about 500 surgeries a year:"

" ElAttrache had a pair of surgeries scheduled on athletes whose combined price tag this year alone is right around $48 million.

On Friday, ElAttrache knew he would be performing an operation on the shoulder of star Dodgers pitcher Zack Greinke, who had broken his collarbone in a scuffle with San Diego's Carlos Quentin.

But while he was watching the evening news that night, after a long day in surgery, ElAttrache saw the video of the Lakers' Kobe Bryant in agony because of a torn Achilles' tendon.

Just as he was starting to ponder what this all meant, ElAttrache's telephone rang.

"It was Kobe, asking if I could fit him in Saturday," ElAttrache said.




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Yes we are.

By the way, Anyone found Travestyny? Was he man slaughtered or the thread was manslaughtered I'm confused hahaha

[travestyny]

Hysterical, guys. 22 people voted and you are claiming a victory. I know for a fact not that many posters here are this dim to believe he had a full thickness tear. If most posters believe it, I'll gladly accept that. So far all I'm noticing is a bunch of posters who obviously paid no attention to the mounds of evidence listed on page one, which I'm sure of since some posted "evidence" that I addressed. Let's see how it turns out after a few days.

[Golden Boi 360]

They don't believe it they're just voting for anything that favors Pacquiao to downplay Floyd's win.

[Real King Kong]

Hysterical, guys. 22 people voted and you are claiming a victory. I know for a fact not that many posters here are this dim to believe he had a full thickness tear. If most posters believe it, I'll gladly accept that. So far all I'm noticing is a bunch of posters who obviously paid no attention to the mounds of evidence listed on page one, which I'm sure of since some posted "evidence" that I addressed. Let's see how it turns out after a few days.

Why wouldn't people believe it when a surgeon vouched for him? I personally don't believe it cuz I've had a torn rottor cuff and i couldn't throw punches without my body instinctively limiting my motion to protect itself from pain. I know everyone is different but pac didn't show any signs at all. I feel like pac and his whole camp are dishonest...it's not hard for me to doubt him. Anyone with a history of making excuses for losses and not giving his opponent credit, shows a lack of character and it wouldn't be a far stretch to imbelish an injury.

[ADP02]

Hysterical, guys. 22 people voted and you are claiming a victory. I know for a fact not that many posters here are this dim to believe he had a full thickness tear. If most posters believe it, I'll gladly accept that. So far all I'm noticing is a bunch of posters who obviously paid no attention to the mounds of evidence listed on page one, which I'm sure of since some posted "evidence" that I addressed. Let's see how it turns out after a few days.

I told you long ago, you have no evidence. You have a few internet folks that got you to believe in that picture was Manny holding a flag right after the surgery. You even embellished without evidence and said he was waving the flag. I debunked that. Similarly, that is what's going on with the rest of the stuff you presented.


I'm going to try to help you though. Here is Manny swimming. As you would have us believe, it must be really bad for his rotator cuff to heal .... lol



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[ADP02]

One more of Manny swimming ... but its Manny's legs that are doing all the work. As you would have us believe, it must be really bad for his rotator cuff to heal .... lol

[pasawayako]

even with a tear rotator cuff he still easily beat floyd who is in full dose of peds.

[Spoon23]

Please vote. I want to see what Boxingscene truly thinks about this issue!

So far they are seeing that you suck at it lmao




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[ADP02]

Why wouldn't people believe it when a surgeon vouched for him? I personally don't believe it cuz I've had a torn rottor cuff and i couldn't throw punches without my body instinctively limiting my motion to protect itself from pain. I know everyone is different but pac didn't show any signs at all. I feel like pac and his whole camp are dishonest...it's not hard for me to doubt him. Anyone with a history of making excuses for losses and not giving his opponent credit, shows a lack of character and it wouldn't be a far stretch to imbelish an injury.

You need to read up then:
Question: "Does the amount of pain you are having correlate with the size or thickness of your rotator cuff tear?

Doctor: "The size of the tear usually doesn’t correlate with the pain you are experiencing. Many patients mistakenly believe that they must have a large full thickness rotator cuff tear because they are in severe pain … usually the opposite is true. "

Doctor: "some patients with mild shoulder pain have massive rotator cuff tears. Bottom line… the size of your tear will not correlate with the amount of pain you are experiencing. Many patients with tendonitis or bursitis have more pain than patients with rotator cuff tears. "


Just to make you believe, here is Floyd and his team who said that he tore his rotator cuff and said it was all messed up when he fought Castillo.

Floyd thru more left handed jabs in the fight that he had a torn rotator cuff than in the 2nd fight and other fights. Still think its not possible?

Mayweather vs Castillo I: Mayweather threw 297 jabs.
Mayweather vs Castillo II: Mayweather threw only 235 jabs.
Mayweather vs Judah: only threw 109 jabs.
Mayweather vs Hatton: Only threw 72 jabs.
Mayweather vs stationary Baldomir: 200 jabs

Here is Floyd late in the fight. Now do you believe? lol:


3 punch combo with his supposedly torn messed up shoulder




left punch then elevates left elbow and uses it to push off Castillo




2 left hands by Floyd


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[big_james10]

Fact 1: Pacquaio lost the fight!
Fact 2: There was no evidence or mention of an injury until Bob Arum mentioned it at the post-fight press conference.
Fact 3: Pacquaio lost the fight!