The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

[Scipio2009]

Whoah, that can't be right.....

I used a google currency converter to USD, but I think I got it wrong ?

Pac owes $70mil in taxes, and his net worth is $25mil ?

That can't be right ?

Maybe I added a couple of integers that I shouldn't have, not sure ?

Pretty sure that you did the math right.

To be fair, the net worth number was quoted as being through 2013; for the four fights after that, Pacquiao likely got purses totaling $90m (plus whatever upside that he ended up getting on the Mayweather fight, as the other three fights did **** business).

After actually paying his PI taxes, paying Koncz, Roach, Arum, and financing his 300-person caravan (which was advance covered by Arum), I doubt that Pacquiao cleared $30m since 2013 (plus whatever upside he actually got on the Mayweather fight).

The BIR suit basically assumes that from 2008 through the date in question, Manny Pacquiao didn't pay his PI taxes, on top of which he was assessed tax penalties and interest (the fact that, over 5 years after the fact, Pacquiao has still yet been unable to produce receipts for US tax payments, which would offset the bulk of what's owed, let's you know that some funny business has happened).

If Pacquiao, as things have looked for some time now, really didn't pay his taxes (Top Rank using the foreign fighter gimmick of only disclosing a small portion of the purse in the US, with Pacquiao thinking that that was enough to keep all taxing authorities away), he's screwed himself.

Senator or not, Pacquiao's assets are gonna be liquidated, to cover what he owes (likely beginning things with selling off whatever assets he had in the US, before moving to his PI assets, hopefully with enough in parts to keep his home.

[travestyny]

Could Manny have done this?

Ohhhhh, I get it. He was swimming in the ocean with barbells. LMAOOOOO!!!!!


Congratulations! This is beyond embarrassing now. I don't even have to say much.


IT'S OVER! Thanks for playing.

THE END

[ADP02]

Ohhhhh, I get it. He was swimming in the ocean with barbells. LMAOOOOO!!!!!


Congratulations! This is beyond embarrassing now. I don't even have to say much.


IT'S OVER! Thanks for playing.

THE END

Lets face it. You just do not want to understand. Manny did his own thing.

Many things that can be done on land, can be done in water. Some may be easier in water.

After starting a thread, posting all those comments about swimming and not first trying to understand that many people use water to rehab. That is what Manny did. You do not even have pictures to back up your statements. You just let your imagination go crazy wrong and think that Manny was training for the Olympics.


My thinking is that you finally realized that you made a mistake but cannot admit to it at this point. That is all I can think because most people would get it and I do not think you are dumb.

[aboutfkntime]

Pretty sure that you did the math right.

To be fair, the net worth number was quoted as being through 2013; for the four fights after that, Pacquiao likely got purses totaling $90m (plus whatever upside that he ended up getting on the Mayweather fight, as the other three fights did **** business).

After actually paying his PI taxes, paying Koncz, Roach, Arum, and financing his 300-person caravan (which was advance covered by Arum), I doubt that Pacquiao cleared $30m since 2013 (plus whatever upside he actually got on the Mayweather fight).

The BIR suit basically assumes that from 2008 through the date in question, Manny Pacquiao didn't pay his PI taxes, on top of which he was assessed tax penalties and interest (the fact that, over 5 years after the fact, Pacquiao has still yet been unable to produce receipts for US tax payments, which would offset the bulk of what's owed, let's you know that some funny business has happened).

If Pacquiao, as things have looked for some time now, really didn't pay his taxes (Top Rank using the foreign fighter gimmick of only disclosing a small portion of the purse in the US, with Pacquiao thinking that that was enough to keep all taxing authorities away), he's screwed himself.

Senator or not, Pacquiao's assets are gonna be liquidated, to cover what he owes (likely beginning things with selling off whatever assets he had in the US, before moving to his PI assets, hopefully with enough in parts to keep his home.

Oh shht !

[travestyny]

My thinking is that you finally realized that you made a mistake but cannot admit to it at this point. That is all I can think because most people would get it and I do not think you are dumb.

Hahaha. Come on man. Is that really what you think? Then you haven't been paying attention.

You are the one scrambling to find a way to dig out of the abyss you have fallen into. Seriously, it's over. Let it go.

[aboutfkntime]

Lets face it. You just do not want to understand. Manny did his own thing.

Many things that can be done on land, can be done in water. Some may be easier in water.

After starting a thread, posting all those comments about swimming and not first trying to understand that many people use water to rehab. That is what Manny did. You do not even have pictures to back up your statements. You just let your imagination go crazy wrong and think that Manny was training for the Olympics.


My thinking is that you finally realized that you made a mistake but cannot admit to it at this point. That is all I can think because most people would get it and I do not think you are dumb.

it is possible to ********** underwater, but not sure if it is easier


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[ADP02]

it is possible to ********** underwater, but not sure if it is easier


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gotta even it out. Some pain (rehab) and some pleasure.

[ADP02]

Hahaha. Come on man. Is that really what you think? Then you haven't been paying attention.

You are the one scrambling to find a way to dig out of the abyss you have fallen into. Seriously, it's over. Let it go.

Scrambling? I already proved to you what I thought about your supposed FACTS when I debunked your fake picture of Manny holding a flag.

Here you do not even have a picture to debunk. Yet I'm scrambling?




Remember this line that you took out of context?
"The doctor was amazed when he watched a 3 minute self rehab video of Manny"

SO Manny was doing his own thing (rehab). Then he said "I cannot say anything yet about Manny's next fight since he not yet healed"


You did the same thing with a lot of what you posted.

[travestyny]

Scrambling? I already proved to you what I thought about your supposed FACTS when I debunked your fake picture of Manny holding a flag.

Here you do not even have a picture to debunk. Yet I'm scrambling?




Remember this line that you took out of context?
"The doctor was amazed when he watched a 3 minute self rehab video of Manny"

SO Manny was doing his own thing (rehab). Then he said "I cannot say anything yet about Manny's next fight since he not yet healed"


You did the same thing with a lot of what you posted.

Right. So you are going to pretend you debunked the 11 medical documents I posted. You are going to pretend you debunked the information I gave you about his sparring. You are going to pretend you debunked the information about basketball. You also gave a million quotes about doctors lying but when I hit you with all these facts you promptly fell back on Manny's doctors telling the truth. Everyone can see what happened here. You aren't fooling anyone, but thanks for trying. Time for you to bow out and buzz off.

[ADP02]

Right. So you are going to pretend you debunked the 11 medical documents I posted. You are going to pretend you debunked the information I gave you about his sparring. You are going to pretend you debunked the information about basketball. You also gave a million quotes about doctors lying but when I hit you with all these facts you promptly fell back on Manny's doctors telling the truth. Everyone can see what happened here. You aren't fooling anyone, but thanks for trying. Time for you to bow out and buzz off.

Yes those have been debunked and we discussed this.

1) Doctors discussing one thing about swimming and Manny is discussing rehab and how being in the sea helped him with his rehab. Those quotes you posted are NOT discussing Manny and we know you have nothing.
Aquatic rehab is possible and has been used to rehab rotator cuff tears. I pointed it to you and there are videos on the net that debunked your silly logic.

2) Manny shoots left handed. His force is with his left hand. His injured shoulder was his right shoulder.


3) There are at least 2 doctors that confirmed Manny's injury. Who do you have?

4) Arum sent over a 3 minute video of Manny doing rehab to Manny's doctors. Doctors were amazed as you pointed out. So Manny did do self-rehab and his doctors were impressed.