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  • Chuckguy
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    #511
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    Chuck, be more honest.

    Forget that 3 year gap dude, they stated that they could beat anyone from 154-168 LAST YEAR.

    I said that they have been making that comment for THREE YEARS, not that they made it three years ago.

    And only last August Team Golovkin stated that Gennady could beat everyone at 154.

    According to their recent claims, Golovkin could have fought Ward AND Canelo..... but he chose not to, and he used weight as an excuse.
    Ok bro I like this post. You put the hate aside and posted something decent. Green k man

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #512
      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      Both sides have said they are still negotiating, without the enforced timeline.

      Would you give Golovkin an enforced 45% split when you know it should be in the 70/30 region?
      Exactly.

      That's the bottom line.

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      • JUNIABOY
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        #513
        Originally posted by ForemanGrill
        Cowardly BS tactics like this are a huge reason why boxing's popularity isn't what it used to be. People want to see the best fight the best, and when the "top guy" vacates his belt to avoid facing the other "top guy" it just looks really bad.

        It's fine if Canelo doesn't want to fight at 160. I get it. He knows he'll lose. He's making a decision with his best interests in mind. It's smart. It's just annoying as a fan to not get to see a big fight between two guys who are at the top of the division because there's no strong governing body that forces guys to face quality opponents. It makes me long for the days of Haggler and Hearns.
        Agreed. I hope this fight hasn't been torpedoed already. Do you think that K2 resorts to some display of strength as a response?...here's what I was thinking: hold a press conference for receiving the WBC belt, then publicly state their hard-line on a CW no smaller than 158 at a fair split, & all 3 belts on the line. That might be going to the extreme. But at this point, getting public pressure on Canelo might shame them into the fight. I hope this is not a duck.

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        • Bandman
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          #514
          who gives a fk what belt is on the line. i just wanna see em fight.. 155 or 160 make it happen. why are ppl overreacting.

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          • robertzimmerman
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            #515
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            If it goes to purse bid that's what the rules say.

            But in the real world he hasn't doesn't jack shit to earn that kind of split. He's never produced revenues on the same level as Canelo. It is what it is.

            So Canelo will simply drop the belt and negotiate a more appropriate split.
            Well in the real world, Canelo was happy to fight for the title in the first place, knowing that the winner had to fight GG under to the rules of boxing.

            You can't say GG doesn't deserve a certain split.

            Canelo won't be negotiating anything, because he clearly doesn't want to fight him.

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            • RussB23
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              #516
              Canelo vacated because he wants do demand catchweights or doesnt want to fight at all. Going to be interesting seeing what happens .

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              • robertzimmerman
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                #517
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                I think that's bull****.

                1) Brook would fight Canelo tomorrow.

                2) Jacobs/Saunders are both more likely to fight Canelo than Golovkin. They have both shown no interest whatsoever in Golovkin, and both of those guys would obviously prefer a much better payday and much better exposure against an easier opponent.

                I completely disagree, Canelo has much better options than Golovkin does.
                1. You don't know that.

                2. It's realistic that Canelo will want a few more 155 CW's before he goes any higher.

                BJS is now criticising Canelo and he appears to be interested in having further talks with GG.

                A Jacobs fight may also be ordered by the WBA.


                You're only looking short term with Canelo. Again, if when Canelo eventually moves up to MW GG has all of the belts, he's going to have nowhere to go.
                Last edited by robertzimmerman; 05-18-2016, 10:02 PM.

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                • eco1
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                  #518
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  Chuck, be more honest.

                  Forget that 3 year gap dude, they stated that they could beat anyone from 154-168 LAST YEAR.

                  I said that they have been making that comment for THREE YEARS, not that they made it three years ago.

                  And only last August Team Golovkin stated that Gennady could beat everyone at 154.

                  According to their recent claims, Golovkin could have fought Ward AND Canelo..... but he chose not to, and he used weight as an excuse.
                  it doesn't matter if Golovkin can fight at 112 pounds, what matters is that Canelo said he was a MW champ and didn't fight at 160 which is the normal thing to do.

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                  • Nod
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                    #519
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    "Middleweight champion Canelo Alvarez's spectacular one-punch, sixth-round knockout win over Amir Khan on Saturday night drew "around" 600,000 pay-per-view buys". - ESPN

                    The fight did $30 million in PPV sales and another $7.5 million at the gate. Not too bad.

                    HBO's replay of the fight on Saturday night averaged 767,000 viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. The replay spiked dramatically to a peak of 1.005 million -- a much higher than normal 31 percent increase from the average -- during the fifth round, just before the booming knockout.

                    But believe what you want.
                    Oh sorry.. I wasn't aware I was dealing with a genius. So tell me genius how'd you get from ppv numbers to quoting replay numbers?

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                    • g27region
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                      #520
                      Damn Canelo don't do that. I really liked you, man, what the ****? I never thought he's some kind of elite fighter or something like that but I never though he's a puss and I was hoping he wouldn't vacate, now what the **** is he doing? Aw that's heartbreaking and I really liked the guy but now I just don't know what to think

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