Comments Thread For: Roach: Mayweather Would Be a Priority if Pacquiao Returns

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

Come on spoon, we want some answers on this. Why did Freddie also openly admit that manny was drinking magic shakes that he didn't know what was in them, while oddly gaining power going up in weight?

Just read what you wrote.

If Freddy or you do not know what was in the drinks then your are just speculating.

What is a fact is that Floyd said he would be 100% natural then we get to find out that he did something that was banned .... then 3 weeks later requests USADA, who Floyd regularly pays off, to approve it. Answer that!

[Lets_Get_It_On!]

And how does Manny beat Floyd, what's his strategy....have bigger calves?

For one, Manny would go in their with 2 good arms.

While they should have realized this before fight 1, they certainly know now that the judges in Vegas will favor Floyd if the rounds are close or there is relatively little action. So Manny would have to do more in each round and take the lead in the fight. That would put pressure on Floyd to do more.

As you saw in fight 1, when Floyd attacked, he made mistakes and Manny made him pay quite a few times. This would also make the fight that people wanted to see.

Hard to get refs to control Floyd but if they can get a ref that does not let Floyd hold, elbow, head lock then that would make for a much better fight. Refs allow Floyd to stop the offense created by the opponent using illegal tactics!

[Spoon23]

No, instead Pacquiao took a different strategy...he boxed focusing on countering the counter puncher with short combos. Kind of like what JMM did to him the first 3 outings. Not saying he did enough to win, just think its ****** to not knowledge the fact that Pac/Roach never intended to Blitzkrieg Floyd.

Very true.

People not realize Pac gameplay was the right game plan.

If for all who think manny wasnt doing anything in the ring against floyd cause he didnt throw a **** ton of punches....there is a golden ruke when you box someone like floyd....dont play his game. Floyd wants you to throw wasted punches.

Manny studied floyd pretty smart imo cause a smart fighter knows when you got a runner who plays defense dont waste punches or your gonna punch yourself out. That is what floyd banks on saving his best punches when he sees the other is tiri g out from all the punches that went nowhere. He had no choice to run, hug, headlock and all from manny....he wasting wasting a lot of his punches. As floyd hoped he would.

Which is why manny kept up with him in stamina all 12 rounds, had floyd flurried in all 4 corners of the match and rounds. His option was to hold him. Thats a smart but seriously lame tactic. Floyds jabs thrown mostly in all his percetage hit pacs gloves...not face or body.

But for some reason judges counted them as hits? Wtf? Manny was the aggressor in every round, landed the best shots, actually hit floyd with more better shots than floyd hit him. But again...pitty pats are counted for some odd reason. This is why floyd made sure it went to cards, it was gonna favor his pitty pat tactics even in illegal clench taps.

He was even hittin him while ref was breakin them apart....ups you punch count. But if your tied.....you cant recoil. There is many reasons why boxing is dieing as a sport of honorable pugilism and gone to $$ only. Whats a better way to make money then have a flawed boxer go lossless in hopes he will get knocked out?

Its a TMT and mgm money maker since blth are in league together. Floyd is a promoter. Makes the stipulations to fight him. He was even shown with the crazy negotiations for this fight to happen which took many turns cause of his off stipulations. Facts.

The deeper you dive into the history of this fight, floyd as a fighter ( remember he is only lossless when became a paid pro, he got 6 losses as an amature) and how the way the boxing scene is been set up over the last 7 years you will see why folks are pissed, why he catches a lot of negative feedback from fans of boxing , and also...most folks dont flack him especially certain ex boxers and celebs cause they placed high wagers on the fight in favor of floyd. If you look at the percentage of who was gonna win the fight before the fight and during....Pac was then the odds on fav. So whoever bet floyd would bank big time. Its a lot of fuvkery with this fight so before casting opinions on either side fighters, look at it from a different perspective then the true conclusion will unfold.

That as we most know already. Pac was the true winner.

[pasawayako]

Yup, nacho knows what's up.

Nacho about Floyd: The kid caved. Over defensive on the most important fight of his life.

"He knew he was supported by the judges to give a luck luster fight."

"He (floyd) lost so much credibility"

"the only one throwing punches was Pacquiao"

"how can they gave the rounds to a guy who even looks ridiculous running away scared?"

"or giving hugs to turn off the fight?"




# rematch written all over the place. Floyd needs to redeem himself with this poor display of boxing.

One of the most knowledgeable in boxing speak the truth.

[Johnwoo8686]

Yup, nacho knows what's up.

Nacho about Floyd: The kid caved. Over defensive on the most important fight of his life.

"He knew he was supported by the judges to give a luck luster fight."

"He (floyd) lost so much credibility"

"the only one throwing punches was Pacquiao"

"how can they gave the rounds to a guy who even looks ridiculous running away scared?"

"or giving hugs to turn off the fight?"




# rematch written all over the place. Floyd needs to redeem himself with this poor display of boxing.

You are the only guy left on this forum who can't get over the result of this fight. You must be a creepy guy in real life, the kind of guy that will stalk a chick endlessly after she rejects you

Pacquiao lost, get over it!

[Spoon23]

You are the only guy left on this forum who can't get over the result of this fight. You must be a creepy guy in real life, the kind of guy that will stalk a chick endlessly after she rejects you

Pacquiao lost, get over it!

That's the thing.. The more it veers away from the date of the fight.. The more people are realizing fraudster Froid lost. It will just become bigger and bigger.. As post fight analysis shows the one who truly deserves is the one who connected more, and the one who connected more was the Pacman.

Even the great coach nacho knows who was and is the true winner that night.

# there will never be a closure on this one since froidy doesn't want a rematch to settle who really was the best.

# Great rivals fight at least twice and commonly 3 times. Floyd can't even dare think of a rematch with Pac and just settles with a Berto and now a fight with a MMA fighter with no boxing pro fights lmao

Welcome to ***** st.

Cheers!

[BenjaminTapia13]

Spoon23 I rewatched the fight one last time, I went more extreme by not just watching every round in slow motion but also pausing rapidly to see all the lands I could get, the numbers on that video are wrong, Manny was outpointed, he did lose that fight, I saw two rounds that were clear wins for Manny and two other rounds that were pretty even so I gave Manny those two other rounds, again I'm just being honest I like Manny as a fighter I used to train where he trains and even got some moments where I could train side by side him. And I also like some of mayweather's skills too like his bobbing and weaving movement, and nobody actually believes Manny won, like 99 percent of boxers and trainers don't, Shawn porter agrees Floyd outpointed Manny, amir khan saw the same, Keith Thurman saw the same, timothy Bradley saw the ssme, danny Garcia saw the same and so many others there's only a tiny bit who either say Manny won or it was a draw. Freddie Roach also says Floyd won. Im convinced already I've seen it and studied it clisely it was just a clear mayweather win, don't get me wrong Floyd fought in an unentertaining manner, his mindset during the fight was simply to be ahead in points even if by a small amount and he dudnt care if they were tap taps and be defensive afterwards. And if Manny would score and either reach the points Floyd had or passed Floyd , Floyd would simply tag and be out of range so that his points remained ahead. Floyd's reach was another thing that allowed him to play it safe with Manny.

[Spoon23]

Spoon23 I rewatched the fight one last time

Here's a more in depth analysis. You can dispute if you can, but just a reminder not a single Floyd fan can, coz the truth is Pac landed the more shots and not only the more shots, but the clean and effective punches. Enjoy! You can time stamp it if you want to object. We can always do a recount. But rest assured its all there.

Chronicles of the Biggest sports Heist in History

When there is a crime you look at clues of events that transpired.You trace the evidences that are left.

People Lie, but what doesn't lie are evidences trapped in time in a form of a video of the truth that transpired in that strange night of boxing.

It's very obvious when you watch the fight that Mayweather was missing badly, but the judges were counting them.

Slowmo video is meant to show who really connected in that round and who truly deserved it. It is even more accurate because you can tell which punches really connected throughout the fight.

We need to spread this brilliant video so the fans can see who really won the fight. But I knew the fight was a joke from the beginning because Pacquiao wasn't gonna get his hands raised in Vegas.

Here is the truth. The rounds that should have gone to Manny. Rounds that if it were counted correctly. It would have made it 9-4 for Pac,

Since these 5 rounds in these videos were given to floyd, when in fact it shouldnt have.

There are 5 videos, of 8 rounds, rounds 2,3,6,7,8,9,10,12
in these videos.

Rounds 2,3,7,8,12 were given to Floyd unanimously (video disputed)

Rounds 9,10 only 1 judge gave to Floyd (video disputed)

Round 4 and 6 are unanimous to Pac on all 3 judges.

The 7 rounds are in question. If Pac gets the 7 rounds plus the 2 unanimous rounds. It's a 9/3 Pac.

Judge for yourself.

Unbiased video showing all of landed shots of both parties per 3 minute round. Unedited, unspliced round by round documented shots.

Enjoy! Pac was the true winner.

Round 2



Round 3



Round 6,7,8

[Spoon23]

4th and 5th videos here:

Floyd about Manny:

When Floyd was asked who was his top three toughest opponent, he was quoted by boxingscene.com: "I can say that none of them were easy. Although I must say that Canelo was tough....Miguel Cotto [was tough]. Manny Pacquiao was very tough. Pacquiao is very good. He was better than I thought."

Round 9,10



Round 12

[/QUOTE]

Nacho about Floyd: The kid caved. Over defensive on the most important fight of his life.

"He knew he was supported by the judges to give a luck luster fight."

"He (floyd) lost so much credibility"

"the only one throwing punches was Pacquiao"

"how can they gave the rounds to a guy who even looks ridiculous running away scared?"

"or giving hugs to turn off the fight?"




# rematch written all over the place. Floyd needs to redeem himself with this poor display of boxing.

[Spoon23]

Oh here's the guy who actually gave Floyd a boxing lesson.

Epic round 4. The maestro. @ 1:33




Round 6 @ 1:42

another day @ the school. Floyd learning how to get hit lol