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  • #51
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    Nah, if Ryabinsky can somehow prove that the initial testing process was not comprehensive..... e.g. they didn't test for that particular substance in the first few tests, or that the first tests were urine only and the last one was blood..... then he may have a case......

    ..... but I would say that he is pretty well fk'd.

    He needs to prove that the initial testing was somehow DIFFERENT, which is why the substance wasn't detected until now.
    uhhh all random tests are urine and blood

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    • #52
      Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
      Like it or not WBC have more current lineal champions of course you can argue about it given the fact some have retired others have recently moved up..but Im not here for that now -- I just came here to laugh at you haters.
      so lineal titles are the most prestigious then? The WBC can't be that prestigious if their claim to fame is that their champions also hold other championships outside of their own organisation. Thats so strange. Or is it that these lineal champions are prestigious because they hold the WBC too? Fury must be a pretender

      Besides, lineal titles have to be justified the same way. Lineal and no.1 are totally different things. Look at Stevenson and Canelo. Everyone with a brain recognises they aren't the no.1 fighters in the division.

      The WBA currently has the best claim to the best fighters. The WBA recognise Fury, Lebedev, Kovalev, Golovkin, Lara, Crolla, and Rigondeaux. The WBC recognise Gonzales.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        It's a turd-polishing contest.

        So what if the WBC-turd is shinier TODAY, than the WBA-turd, the WBO-turd, and the IBF-turd..... the WBC-turd is still not definitive.

        They don't consistently get it right, so they cannot be relied upon.

        They have never recognized Wladimir Klitschko as the best heavyweight on the planet..... and their current middleweight champion has never faced a middleweight opponent, EVER!


        Preach brother. You're a poster i've definitely grown to respect even if I can't handle the barrage of posts you can unleash.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          It's a turd-polishing contest.

          So what if the WBC-turd is shinier TODAY, than the WBA-turd, the WBO-turd, and the IBF-turd..... the WBC-turd is still not definitive.

          They don't consistently get it right, so they cannot be relied upon.

          They have never recognized Wladimir Klitschko as the best heavyweight on the planet..... and their current middleweight champion has never faced a middleweight opponent, EVER!


          Awe how cute your back giving your opinion on sanctioning bodies - didn't you say the last time we spoke that you didnt read the manual and did not have the time to learn the policies of every sanctioning body? I wont reply to you again Im very selective no time to waste on newbies.

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          • #55
            The degradation of Wilder here in light of the fact that he is not the one who cheated is outright mind-boggling! All Povetkin had to do was not fail a drug test and Saturday Wilder would have done what many accused he would not do, step into the ring against Povetkin. Simple. If Wilder never wants to fight Povetkin, I wouldn't blame him. Just because a fighter cycles off PED's, does not mean their body as a whole no longer carries any advantage. Some advantages can remain and are unfair. And when a fighter is clean 3 times and then dirty for the last test, it means something was introduced into their system since the first three....there is no logical way to see that any differently with what the testing agency reported.
            Last edited by richardt; 05-16-2016, 05:02 PM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by techliam View Post
              The WBA have an equal claim to that

              The idea that the WBC is still the most prestigious is a myth. It hasn't been that way for a long time. The only division where the WBC champion has a decent claim to being no.1 is Flyweight

              I can see his point, they were and likely still are regarded as the most prestigious..... but yea you're right, it's a myth. Not one of them have got it right, and not one of them have ever had it right except for maybe the WBA way back when they were the only sanctioning body.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by techliam View Post
                so lineal titles are the most prestigious then? The WBC can't be that prestigious if their claim to fame is that their champions also hold other championships outside of their own organisation. Thats so strange. Or is it that these lineal champions are prestigious because they hold the WBC too? Fury must be a pretender

                Besides, lineal titles have to be justified the same way. Lineal and no.1 are totally different things. Look at Stevenson and Canelo. Everyone with a brain recognises they aren't the no.1 fighters in the division.

                The WBA currently has the best claim to the best fighters. The WBA recognise Fury, Lebedev, Kovalev, Golovkin, Lara, Crolla, and Rigondeaux. The WBC recognise Gonzales.
                I dont recall that being their policy. I can debate the names on your list -- Crolla? lol ( Linares )...Kovalev ( Stevenson ).....ok....Fury right ( I guess five punches a round beats Wlad) ...Lara by default? Golovkin?? ( can crusher)...anyways busy talk to you later.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
                  Like it or not WBC have more current lineal champions of course you can argue about it given the fact some have retired others have recently moved up..but Im not here for that now -- I just came here to laugh at you haters.

                  " lineal " ?

                  omg

                  You mean like Canelo, and Stevenson ?

                  Come on bro LMAO

                  Canelo has never fought a middleweight opponent..... not one, EVER!

                  Using lineage is WAKK !

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                    What i meant was it doesnt matter if he proves 1/2 werent comprehensive and the 3rd was cause Povetkin failed the 4th test

                    Oh shht really, I thought it was 2 and he failed the 3rd.

                    Damn !

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by techliam View Post
                      Preach brother. You're a poster i've definitely grown to respect even if I can't handle the barrage of posts you can unleash.

                      I'll try to get it under control.

                      Can you imagine how my neighbors feel ?

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