Is there a double standard present in boxing today???

[PivotandRoll]

Honest question, I've been painted as some white devil for failing to see this double standard that African Amercan and Hispanic fighter must suffer through today.

As far as I was concerned what professional boxing involved was either being well known from your amateur career and being signed based on that or you convince someone to believe in you or pay for your own first fights until a promoter picks you up. Now I imagine the cream would rise to crop, but apparently not?

And Positive tests for white fighters are swept under the rug or treated lightly while others are treated harshly?? I don't know... Can someone enlighten me? This is an honest question...If you feel I'm race baiting or anything then don't even comment, I probably wont reply , rather just read what you guys say.

[The Big Dunn]

The double standard is posters and how they are reacting to Povetkin testing positive.

when other fighters have tested positive, posters have said the fighter is a cheater because he tested positive using VADA, which these posters say is the "gold standard".

Now that it is Povetkin, instead of just calling hima cheater we see threads/posts calling for "careful checking" of VADA testing, posters suggesting a "false positive" and then posters finding fault with Wilder, and the trolls saying Haymon someohow made Povetkin test positive, thus saying VADA has no credibility and can be bought when before they said this couldn't happen.

Why can't you and others just call it straight-Povetkin cheated he is the reason the fight is cancelled.

[PivotandRoll]

The double standard is posters and how they are reacting to Povetkin testing positive.

when other fighters have tested positive, posters have said the fighter is a cheater because he tested positive using VADA, which these posters say is the "gold standard".

Now that it is Povetkin, instead of just calling hima cheater we see threads/posts calling for "careful checking" of VADA testing, posters suggesting a "false positive" and then posters finding fault with Wilder, and the trolls saying Haymon someohow made Povetkin test positive, thus saying VADA has no credibility and can be bought when before they said this couldn't happen.

Why can't you and others just call it straight-Povetkin cheated he is the reason the fight is cancelled.

I did, I said that he should be banned.

[MASTERBX]

There is no double standard, your side is losing so you are whining as usual. lil g is next.

[j0zef]

It's impossible to judge the situation because our views are tainted by who we are. If you're a black who got screwed by a white guy once, you're prone to generalize and say there's a lot of racism in the world.
If you're a white guy who got beat up a black guy because they were tougher, you're likely to say that racism is bogus.

I believe that there's a lot of racism in the world from both sides.
There's racism against blacks from white people in the US because they associate them with criminal activity, and they don't trust them. As an example, if a typical suburban white guy sees a black guy in a hoodie and a dorag, he's likely to label him a thug strictly by the way he looks. Some white folk say that in America specifically, there is no race bias, and if you work hard, you'll get there. That nobody judges you by skin color. They're living in a dream world.

On the flipside, a lot of african americans think that whites are both weak and are there to screw them over. A white male is generally seen as weak by african american males. Being tough is an important of an african american culture, and one of the ignorant ways to establish your dominance is to put down others. Very often, african americans will ignore the idea of 'sample size' and make a generalization that whites are there to screw them over.


I can't be 100% objective because I belong to a race. Nobody can be purely objective, we're all tainted one way or another.

My personal opinion is that, in America, it is more difficult to succeed as an African American fighter. That is because the powerful people in boxing (along with the rest of institutions in the US) are predominantly white. When 90% of people in power belong to one race, you're obviously gonna get more bias.

[The Big Dunn]

I did, I said that he should be banned.

Then there should be no issue.

The issue with this is really with the Pro VADA crowd. They have always supported VADA testing. Now that VADA catches someone the pro VADA crowd didn't expect to get caught, now we are seeing a lot of flipping, calls for "careful investigation" and seeing the results questioned as a "false positive", among other things.

[soul_survivor]

Honest question, I've been painted as some white devil for failing to see this double standard that African Amercan and Hispanic fighter must suffer through today.

As far as I was concerned what professional boxing involved was either being well known from your amateur career and being signed based on that or you convince someone to believe in you or pay for your own first fights until a promoter picks you up. Now I imagine the cream would rise to crop, but apparently not?

And Positive tests for white fighters are swept under the rug or treated lightly while others are treated harshly?? I don't know... Can someone enlighten me? This is an honest question...If you feel I'm race baiting or anything then don't even comment, I probably wont reply , rather just read what you guys say.

You have to be more specific. Are you talking about Povetkin and his test here? He should be banned, end of. As Mosley should have been following his admission over a decade ago. There may be double standards in boxing and it may involve race and religion but with drugs, every fighter, regardless of where they are from, is given way too much leeway.

Can you imagine someone testing positive in numerous other world sports and just walking free?

[PivotandRoll]

There is no double standard, your side is losing so you are whining as usual. lil g is next.

I don't have a side and I'm not a Golovkin fan. Now, please leave my thread racist.

[PivotandRoll]

You have to be more specific. Are you talking about Povetkin and his test here? He should be banned, end of. As Mosley should have been following his admission over a decade ago. There may be double standards in boxing and it may involve race and religion but with drugs, every fighter, regardless of where they are from, is given way too much leeway.

Can you imagine someone testing positive in numerous other world sports and just walking free?

I asked that exact thing! I just seen someone claim this was one of the many times white fighters have gotten away with this exact thing while African Americans are crucified and this is just something I didn't think was true...

And I was called a piece of ***** for bringing up Jones and Mosley as if it was some scapegoat

[Akan]

It's not that there's blatant bias by the institutions it's what people see from other fans. Currently it's how the table's been flipped on Wilder. In what other world can someone fail a test for PEDs and his opposition is the one being referred to as a coward and a *****, for turning down the fight? I haven't seen anything like this in my life.