Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: Povetkin Fight is Off, Not Postponed - Off!

[Eff Pandas]

I can't blame Wilder's manager for taking that stance. In fact its odder that the WBC hasn't taken a stronger stance with their "Clean Boxing" angle they're trying to push. Seems like you wanna go hard with this decision, not play it out or pretend to play it out whatever the case is. Povetkin got popped. Whatever the circumstances don't really matter, or shouldn't matter, as to this fight & his mandatory status. Fight should be canceled & mandatory position lost. Give the mandatory to Pulev or someone else.

I can imagine DiBella celebrating when he found out.

Why is DiBella celebrating? He just lost whatever his cut was of the $5M or whatever Wilder was getting is & has no promoter ties to Wilder that I'm aware of so there is no guarantee he'll be promoting his future fights. Or can someone correct me about DiBella's & Wilder's relationship?

[Eff Pandas]

other way around... the "positive" test has such barely low trace levels if they kept testing he would probably show clean again

Lets make up our mind is this substance supposed to be in your body for months once you've taken it or can it come & go as it pleases? Seems like depending on the scenario being pushed in a specific remark it can be either or.

[Sweet_Science2]

Run far far away Wilder. You were gonna take your first L you bum squad bi tch

So Wilder is running but the other guy failed the test? Get your stupid ass outta here

[Champ Wilder]

What a shame, what a shame

[Pigeons]

Well I'm over it. My mind is firmly focused on Crawford-Postol in July. There's Thurman-Porter in June as well.

[Flabble Scrote]

**** Russia
Wilder is class act, he is funny too, USA should get behind him, he has a lot of physical talent and is a marketers dream really with his personality
He should tighten up one or two weaknesses but he could beat Povetkins ass if he kept his range
Tuscaloosa represent he does em proud

[HanzGruber]

Dammit. So who's next in line

[vitali1999]

Seems no matter what Wilder will never fight a real fighter, always some reason. Oh well some people always get a free pass

[Kagami Taiga]

Seems no matter what Wilder will never fight a real fighter, always some reason. Oh well some people always get a free pass

You sound frikkin stupid.

[PunchyPotorff]

Povetkin and his handlers should be ashamed of themselves, i was definitely skeptical when i saw povetkin steamroll mike perez, thinking perez was mentally out of it after the abdusalamov incident, but povetkin is clearly just a dirty cheat, i wanted to see this fight but id rather see a clean sport, good riddance to povetkin, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out, and take other dirty cheats like kid galahad with you.

When he fought Perez, it was legal. And there was supposedly only a trace amount in his system. Not like he was a fully blown cheat. Try getting your facts straight.

I wanted to see Wilder knock this fraud out. Dude tried to cheat and got caught. He should be banned a year or two and tested around the clock. Anybody who defends this needs their ass beat. It's a damn shame this clown not only cheated with those PEDS he cheated the fans out of see him get his ass whipped. I was looking forward to pedvetkin getting slept.

Oh this is funny. So, somehow in your fairyland world, anyone smart enough to realize the drug hasn't even been tested fully for longevity in the system, and realize it was just a trace amount anyway... SOMEHOW they need their bu tt kicked. Wow, the density from your end is deep today there friend. Get mad the fight is off. Fine. Going full blown wacko is just ridiculous. Take a chill pill and relax. Geez

Povetkin slipped up and had a below-threshold detection for one of the most recently banned, mild substances out there. The real slip up was letting Wilder slip away. I can imagine DiBella celebrating when he found out.

^^^^^^ This. Wilder Corporation is celebrating big time right now. All-night party... make that all-week party.

If 70 nanograms is the correct amount it probably just didn't show up in previous tests. It's below the lowest threshold in WADA testing.

Exactly

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other way around... the "positive" test has such barely low trace levels if they kept testing he would probably show clean again

unless they took subsequent tests im not aware of??

Firstly, I meant urine samples, not blood. Want to get that out there before anyone tries to be a smartass lol.

Secondly, VADA tests samples more than once, and they do it for the very reason you mentioned (false positives). There's no benefit of the doubt to be given here. He tested clean 3 times and then tested dirty over 2 weeks later. If trace amounts showed up in that sample, they would have shown up in all samples.

What you naysayers refuse to accept is that this is new territory. The manufacturer themselves said they don't yet know how long trace amounts will stay in the system, nor do they know exactly how it effects all users. You can argue til the cows come home. Won't change anything.

Lets make up our mind is this substance supposed to be in your body for months once you've taken it or can it come & go as it pleases? Seems like depending on the scenario being pushed in a specific remark it can be either or.

WE aren't the ones 'making up our minds'. Again, the manufacturer says they cannot yet make a statement with any certainty as to WHEN trace elements fully leave the body of the user. And Povetkin's last test definitely falls into the 'trace elements found' category. IMO, until they can define the full life of the drug in the body, the rules should not be zero tolerance.

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Bottom line: The drug needs more research, and Wilder dodged a bullet. And he knows that well. I guarantee he sleeps much better tonight than he has in months.