Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'm Not Ducking Golovkin, When Will He Move Up?

[Chollo Vista]

Who said ANYTHING about not understanding Floyd's demands????!!!!!! I have already stated Floyds demands from the first posts!!! And I hate to burst your bubble but I have already shown over the years that Ward is one of my favorites and GGG is nowhere near my list of favorites. Sounds like you need suicidal help since it is obvious you are projecting.

I don't see what's so difficult.

Team GGG said Golovkin can go to 168, then back down to 154.

Floyd is saying GGG should fight Ward then he can have a fight with Floyd.

How GGG decides to fight Ward is up to him. I've given you countless examples of people that have given their opponents more than 7 lbs. GGG can weigh 168, while Ward or Kovalev weighs 175. Then if GGG is victorious, he can go back to 154 for Mayweather.

If he can't get with the program, then tough luck. He must not want it bad enough.

If he does somehow find the balls to do it, I'll feel bad because you will no longer be with us. You'd be dead from suicide.

[Chollo Vista]

No I will do it for you ok.....here go's

ps shortened Edit
In professional boxing, until the 1980s, the "championship distance" generally referred to the title rounds that numbered between 13 and 15.[7][8] For decades, the last heavyweight title match scheduled for less than 15 rounds had been the September 22, 1927 10-rounder between Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey; from then, the only bout that wasn't scheduled for 15 rounds had been a scheduled 20-rounder between Joe Louis and Abe Simon on March 21, 1941.[9] This changed though, following the death of lightweight Duk Koo Kim in 1982[2] after his fourteen-round fight with Ray Mancini. Almost immediately, the World Boxing Council (WBC) issued a statement saying that WBC world title bouts would be set for 12 rounds.[9]

The following year on March 27, 1983, the first ever heavyweight title fight scheduled for 12 rounds under that rule was held by the WBC between Larry Holmes and Lucien Rodriguez.[9] The World Boxing Association, from which the World Boxing Organization had not yet separated, later followed suit[10] by voting to reduce their championship distances to 12 rounds on October 19, 1987.[11] While the International Boxing Federation, which had recently broken away from the WBA, continued to hold onto the position there was no documented medical evidence to show a 15-round fight is more dangerous than a 12-round fight, they eventually voted to shorten their championship distance to 12 rounds as well on June 3, 1988.[12]

The last heavyweight 15-rounder title fight was a on October 16, 1987 between Mike Tyson and Tyrell Biggs.[2][13] The last middleweight 15-rounder title fight was a World Boxing Board title match on June 7, 1997 in which Jose Alfredo Flores won a split decision over Eric Holland in Ruidoso, New Mexico.[14]

Here's also the link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_distance_(boxing)

What happen is right here. Again, go away

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ma...ar_Ray_Leonard

Hagler was guaranteed $12 million plus a percentage of the revenue. Leonard was guaranteed $11 million plus 50 percent of the closed circuit television rights in the Baltimore-Washington area. Hagler ended up with about $20 million and Leonard $12 million. After Leonard agreed to let Hagler have the larger purse, Hagler agreed to let Leonard choose the gloves (10-ounce Reyes), the number of rounds (12) and the size of the ring (20-foot).

[The plunger man]

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ma...ar_Ray_Leonard

Hagler was guaranteed $12 million plus a percentage of the revenue. Leonard was guaranteed $11 million plus 50 percent of the closed circuit television rights in the Baltimore-Washington area. Hagler ended up with about $20 million and Leonard $12 million. After Leonard agreed to let Hagler have the larger purse, Hagler agreed to let Leonard choose the gloves (10-ounce Reyes), the number of rounds (12) and the size of the ring (20-foot).

Now go away

U miss the point 10oz are what middlweights use lol....every middlweight fight is 10z gloves

Up to 154lb are 8oz gloves

[richardt]

I don't see what's so difficult.

Team GGG said Golovkin can go to 168, then back down to 154.

Floyd is saying GGG should fight Ward then he can have a fight with Floyd.

How GGG decides to fight Ward is up to him. I've given you countless examples of people that have given their opponents more than 7 lbs. GGG can weigh 168, while Ward or Kovalev weighs 175. Then if GGG is victorious, he can go back to 154 for Mayweather.

If he can't get with the program, then tough luck. He must not want it bad enough.

If he does somehow find the balls to do it, I'll feel bad because you will no longer be with us. You'd be dead from suicide.

Go back to your suicide prevention hotline where you spend most of your time because I am a fan of Ward and have been for a long time and have never endeared myself to GGG. You don't get it! You said "Floyd is saying he should fight Ward and then he can have a fight with Floyd". WHO DOESNT ALREADY understand this??????? GGG never said he would fight Ward in Ward's current division and then drop back down to below 160. Never happened! And if GGG DOES agree, it would be future or present tense, not anything he said because he has not indicated such since the day Floyd made the demand. You don't understand SYNTAX and TIMELINES.

[Sweet_Science2]

How would he shut up Ward fans???? If Ward won or lost I would STILL be a fan of his! Have been a fan for his entire career! I would hope he defeats GGG but if the fight doesn't happen, so what? I don't care if GGG becomes great or not but you are nothing but a possessed hater of GGG and froth at the mouth every time he fights praying he gets beat. Give up the damn Ghost. Floyd should do the same.

He could shut Ward fans up by A: Taking the fight for starters. B: Beating Ward and looking great in the process. He would get the proper respect and have a great of this era on his resume. That is how he will build his legacy. Not fighting Wade who has never been in a 12 round fight. You can't claim to be a beast but scared to do what beast do.

If Floyd stayed at 130 and fought bums his whole career and refused to move up one weight class and ggg actually moved up 5 and had Floyd's resume I would have way more respect for ggg then Floyd. Respect is earned not given. Floyd, Pacquiao, Cotto, Ward, Hopkins, Marquez, De La Hoya, Leornard, etc.. earned people's respect for being great and actually giving up weight and size in order to prove their greatness. lil g has the opportunity he needs to stop playing and take it before he slows down at 36 if he takes his first big fight it might get ugly. If he fights Canelo, stay on that no more bums. If he can't get a big fight at 160 move up and handle business up there. DeGeale, Ward, And the Dirrell brothers would be more than welcome to greet him.

[HeroBando]

What did Hopkins do when he fought Tarver?

What did JMM do when he fought Floyd?

Fine, then GGG doesn't want the Mayweather fight. It's as simple as that. Either you get with the program or you don't.

GGG wants Mayweather, Mayweather doesn't need GGG.

Hopkins was done with MW at age 40, he bulked up working with Shilstone. Bigger guy naturally. Supposedly Marquez didnt give up 10lbs to Floyd fight night, unless Floyd slimmed down from upper 150ies. But cmon, that was a mismatch and a money grab for Marquez. Hate to tell you, but in terms of concessions Ward is not Floyd. Remember both Ward and Hopkins offered 160 to the guy.

[richardt]

He could shut Ward fans up by A: Taking the fight for starters. B: Beating Ward and looking great in the process. He would get the proper respect and have a great of this era on his resume. That is how he will build his legacy. Not fighting Wade who has never been in a 12 round fight. You can't claim to be a beast but scared to do what beast do.

If Floyd stayed at 130 and fought bums his whole career and refused to move up one weight class and ggg actually moved up 5 and had Floyd's resume I would have way more respect for ggg then Floyd. Respect is earned not given. Floyd, Pacquiao, Cotto, Ward, Hopkins, Marquez, De La Hoya, Leornard, etc.. earned people's respect for being great and actually giving up weight and size in order to prove their greatness. lil g has the opportunity he needs to stop playing and take it before he slows down at 36 if he takes his first big fight it might get ugly. If he fights Canelo, stay on that no more bums. If he can't get a big fight at 160 move up and handle business up there. DeGeale, Ward, And the Dirrell brothers would be more than welcome to greet him.

Sorry but do you really think anyone is dumb enough to believe that a hater will not find something else to hate a fighter for, especially if he beats one of their favorite fighters? Lets be clear about one thing, a hater does not change his heart when it is dead set. I have been here for years to witness this. Let me give you an example. Many haters thought Mayweather was fighting Berto instead of Guerrero and they threw a fit. They said they will respect Floyd if he fights Guerrero and when he did they still hated him. Many said that they will FINALLY respect Floyd if he fights the unbeaten powerhouse Canelo and even said they would come on and pretty much praise Floyd. What did they do? They continued hating Floyd and made excuses. Same exact thing for many other fighters. Haters want to see a fighter beat and the only way they can have that thrill is if he fights fighters who can beat him. That's their agenda and it has nothing to do with FINALLY respecting the fighter for stepping up...they want to see him beat, period. This is the way it has been on these boards for ages and it is not going to change. I have seen the bias LOUD AND CLEAR and I am stuck in the middle because I appreciate all types of fighters! Can you HONESTLY say you have NEVER rooted for a fighter based on race, color, or nationality???? I absolutely can!!! You don't have to answer that question if you don't want to. I don't want a disingenuous answer. I'd rather have no answer.

[Chollo Vista]

U miss the point 10oz are what middlweights use lol....every middlweight fight is 10z gloves

Up to 154lb are 8oz gloves

Do you think that all these articles would say that Hagler conceded to 3 concessions (gloves, ring and rounds) if of those 3 concessions, 1 of them was in fact part of the rules and not a concession?

So what's the catch? How did Hagler agree to something that was already a part of the rules?

Why did SRL give Hagler all the money, only for SRL to request something that was already set in the rules? You make no sense.

[The plunger man]

What happen is right here. Again, go away

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ma...ar_Ray_Leonard

Hagler was guaranteed $12 million plus a percentage of the revenue. Leonard was guaranteed $11 million plus 50 percent of the closed circuit television rights in the Baltimore-Washington area. Hagler ended up with about $20 million and Leonard $12 million. After Leonard agreed to let Hagler have the larger purse, Hagler agreed to let Leonard choose the gloves (10-ounce Reyes), the number of rounds (12) and the size of the ring (20-foot).

http://www.wbcboxing.com/downloads/R...HESIZED_09.pdf

This is the WBC own rule book to let you know....now as I said if you don't know its 8oz from straw weight to light middleweight you don't know boxing....middleweight to heavyweight is 10oz for every title fight whether it's the IBF,WBA,WBC AND WBO

[Chollo Vista]

Hopkins was done with MW at age 40, he bulked up working with Shilstone. Bigger guy naturally. Supposedly Marquez didnt give up 10lbs to Floyd fight night, unless Floyd slimmed down from upper 150ies. But cmon, that was a mismatch and a money grab for Marquez. Hate to tell you, but in terms of concessions Ward is not Floyd. Remember both Ward and Hopkins offered 160 to the guy.

Sure man.

We can talk all day about this. Fact of the matter is, unless GGG fights Ward, however he decides to do it, there's no Mayweather fight. Simple as that.

I've given countless ways for it to happen