Comments Thread For: Povetkin Tests Positive For Meldonium, Wilder Title Off

[Banderivets]

Well it doesn't take rocket science to figure out that your're in Ukraine. My wife is from Ukraine. Each month I send money to her Grandmother so she can pay the bills for gas, electicity etc. Her pension is not enough to pay this bills. It was enough (she didn't require my help) before your latest revolution. We had it in 90s - International Monetary fund, western loans, elders starving, external management via US... There's nothing new in what you're going through. I respect your right to experience it if it's what you choose to do.

Interesting...

You know I have family in Saratov, it takes 3 incomes for them to support a single household, grandparents included.

Stop checking out your neighbors yard and get your own house in order. When you are done with that, ask your neighbors if they need some help.

As they say in the US of A, mind your own business. The communal mentality is not a global phenomenon, so don't get offended when others don't want to part take in it, and don't try to push it on others...its not nice.

[Banderivets]

Cycling??? Meldonium wasn't even banned than. Do you know that US athlets are legally using cytoprotectors - same **** as mildonium with different name and not banned?

Yes, he was cycling off of a drug that was becoming illegal.

He knew meldonium was going to be banned so he was CYCLING off it.

Let's not get bogged down in semantics.

[Vinnykin]

The manufacturer of this drug has said traces can be found in the system months after you stop using it "depending on factors such as dose, duration of treatment, and sensitivity of testing methods"

I am firmly in the belief that this drug has been in constant use by a lot of athletes prior to the ban; Sharapova had been using for 10+ years for example and over 100 athletes have tested positive this year. If Povetkin had been using this drug constantly in high doses for years then It's entirely possible that traces of this drug would be found, especially by VADA who are specifically testing for this drug after so many positive results.

Think of poor Marius Wach who had to fight Povetkin while he was on it, maybe they both were who knows? All I have seen is Povetkin looking stronger and his stamina has gone up the last 5 years. If they can prove they haven't taken it since November then the fight should go on, if not......ah well another fight down the toilet

[Fury4daWIN]

This is a tricky situation.

As a Wilder fan I want the fight to go on, and considering the legality of the drug up until recently, it's only a change in testing policy that's really the issue here. That might sound callous, but when you consider all the legal drugs athletes must be taking to gain an edge, the morality of the situation doesn't really enter into things. Povetkin's guilt doesn't rest on whether he took the drugs in the first place, but whether he took them after the ban. That would be quite hard to prove, especially if there are only trace amounts in his test results, as seems to be the case.

If it seems clear that he did take the drug after the ban then that's a clear case of cheating, and the fight probably needs to be called off, sucky though that is. Not because Wilder would be putting his life at risk or any of that jazz (he'd still be fighting the same guy we saw against Wach, Takam, Perez, Charr) but simply because Povetkin knowingly broke the rules, and letting him off would set a terrible precedent.

Personally, I'd still like to see the fight go ahead as I believe Wilder has a great chance at winning, and this is a great opportunity to cement his status in the division, but I can't have any qualms if Wilder decides to pull out over this.

[DeadLikeMe]

Guy fails a drug test outright = not guilty
guy passes all tests = guilty

nsb logic

[-PBP-]

Guy fails a drug test outright = not guilty
guy passes all tests = guilty

nsb logic

Hilarious.

Fails a test - innocent

******* and bacne - guilty

[mathed]

LMAO....Hymen paid people to slip drugs into his food so the fight would get cancelled. Knew something like this would happen.

[Combat Talk Radio]

If he's withing the allowable limit why is the test being flagged as a fail? That's like a cop giving you a ticket for going 24 in a 25

Which happens in many states. Obviously it depends on your skin color and how good looking you are, but yeah doe.

Anyway, might as well let the fight continue. Clearly the substance didn't do jack for him against Clinchko. I don't see any advantage over what he already had.

[about.thousands]

Which happens in many states. Obviously it depends on your skin color and how good looking you are, but yeah doe.

Anyway, might as well let the fight continue. Clearly the substance didn't do jack for him against Clinchko. I don't see any advantage over what he already had.

So what's the point of testing? Do you want a clean sport or a sport just clean enough that fighters gain minimal advantage from PED's?

[Combat Talk Radio]

So what's the point of testing? Do you want a clean sport or a sport just clean enough that fighters gain minimal advantage from PED's?

Exactly my question.

Meldonium is NOT "performance enhancing". DHEA is NOT "performance enhancing". Clenbuterol is NOT "performance enhancing".

That you have a blood or heart issue that causes your blood to flow with less regularity and consistency than someone perfectly healthy, if anything, puts you at a disadvantage without assistance.

Niacin and Yohimbe also regulate blood flow. They're not banned. But depending on your physiology, they can cause other issues. Still not banned.

I said before, the right blend of readily available natural products can have health benefits. They are NOT "performance enhancing", but they give you energy.

To this day I don't understand what problem the testing is really supposed to solve. There are no ingest-able drugs that will give any sort of super advantage. None. Any drugs that would give such an advantage are injected. Always. They're just banning anything that gets a minor buzz in the media. It's whack-a-mole.

Ok - fine. Ban any and all injections that are not designed to address a medical issue that requires it (i.e. insulin for diabetes). Enforce weight class ranges and do not allow fighters to do significant cuts or jumps in weight. One weight class at a time, up or down, from natural fighting weight. If you need pain meds, take whatever pain pills you want. No injection.

Look at Sugar Ray vs. Marvin Hagler. You can't tell me they weren't injecting something. There's no way to get those builds and have that punch resistance from something injested. That's straight up injection.

Stop banning things found in food FFS. It's making the sport and testing look like a joke if you're over-flagging guys.