Comments Thread For: Canelo-Khan PPV Buys: Multiple Sources Point To 460,000

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  • Nightfall
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    #31
    alvared was better rematching Cotto. i wonder what De low standards Hoya is thing about right now. they better not duck lil G for this september

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      #32
      Originally posted by turnedup
      Comparing a guy who was part of the second/third best selling ppv fight ever to a guy on his first ppv...that makes sense.
      Well, they have to be compared when trying to negotiate a purse split between them.

      Canelo is obviously a more proven PPV seller and should receive the lion's share of the money.

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      • TheCell8
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        #33
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Well, they have to be compared when trying to negotiate a purse split between them.

        Canelo is obviously a more proven PPV seller and should receive the lion's share of the money.
        The purse-split was never the question. Canelo was always going to get the lions share of the money. Even if they go to a purse bid, it's 55-45 in favor of Canelo.

        The question was always does Canelo need Golovkin? His fans said he did not and dubbed Canelo 'Ca$hnelo'. However, after these reported numbers he might not have much of a choice besides accepting the fight.

        If he can't get to 500K with Khan, how many other fighters around MW , other than Golovkin, have a bigger name than Khan to generate better numbers? The answer is none. A fight with Lemieux will probably do around 300-350K, Stevens even less. Is HBO going to keep paying him to put up mediocre numbers?

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        • PRchamp
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          #34
          Huge boxing fan but I'm glad this PPV didn't do good and sell well. A lot will say that these are good numbers but let's not forget there are 34 million Mexican Americans and millions of boxing fans on a Mexican holiday as well. There is a trend the public are speaking with their wallets they are tired of pointless PPV's where the opponent is a huge underdog and the favorite is -500 or bigger.

          De La Hoya thought it was all about the event of cinco de mayo but in reality bring in the good fights and let's forget about the event. I bet that Canelo-GGG sells over 800k PPV buys and we will have to hear De La Hoya,Golden Boy and Canelo butt buddies how Canelo sold 800k by himself when in reality like always a marquee opponent gives him those numbers.

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            #35
            Not bad considering everyone knew it was a blatant mismatch. For the most part boxing fans are pretty smart in that regard, so it leaves the faithful diehard Canelo/Khan fans and of course the curious.

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              #36
              I don't like Khan or Alvarez. However, I have to say that the rumored number, 460,000 PPVs is actually very good. Boxing has a ton of young fans who have only been watching boxing for a few years and have become spoiled by the one million-plus selling PPV events that Floyd Mayweather has participated in over the last eight years.

              These fans think that any PPV event that sells less than one million is a failure. Nothing could be further from the truth. Prior to Mayweather/De La Hoya in 2007, there were only about two to three PPV events per year and they all featured fighters who were stars and huge draws fighting others who were also superstars or huge draws in fights that could have gone either way. If a fight sold 400,000 PPVs, it was considered a huge success. With one exception (Trinidad/De La Hoya), a fight that sold one million PPVs was usually a heavyweight fight between the two baddest and most popular fighters on the planet.

              Today, fans with limited knowledge of boxing, expect mismatches and fights between mid-level guys like Alvarez to sell 600,000 to one million PPVs simply because Mayweather set that standard. Comparing Alvarez, Cotto, Golovkin or any other of todays fighters to Mayweather in terms of their popularity and ability to sell PPVs is the equivalent of comparing the Golden State Warriors to your state high school championship team. They should not even be mentioned in the same breath.

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                #37
                Originally posted by TheCell8
                The purse-split was never the question. Canelo was always going to get the lions share of the money. Even if they go to a purse bid, it's 55-45 in favor of Canelo.

                The question was always does Canelo need Golovkin? His fans said he did not and dubbed Canelo 'Ca$hnelo'. However, after these reported numbers he might not have much of a choice besides accepting the fight.

                If he can't get to 500K with Khan, how many other fighters around MW , other than Golovkin, have a bigger name than Khan to generate better numbers? The answer is none. A fight with Lemieux will probably do around 300-350K, Stevens even less. Is HBO going to keep paying him to put up mediocre numbers?
                Canelo still doesn't need Golovkin. A Pacquiao fight or a Cotto rematch would both get him nice paydays.

                People seem disappointed that the guy doesn't do Floyd Mayweather numbers but that doesn't mean these figures are bad. No one else in the sport is currently selling that many PPVs.

                Golovkin is the one who needs him. Without Canelo who is he going to draw decent PPV money against?

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                • Real Talk85
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                  #38
                  You know what's hilarious? After Floyd left boxing people stopped giving a damn. His worst numbers are better than that. The man pretty much was boxing, I mean damn he owns almost every record save for 4 of them.

                  His plus minus is untouchable
                  Beat more champions than anyone
                  Has had like 20 title fights
                  Made more money than any fighter has come close to
                  And has beaten every style of fighter, no other boxer has done that.

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                  • TheCell8
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Canelo still doesn't need Golovkin. A Pacquiao fight or a Cotto rematch would both get him nice paydays.

                    People seem disappointed that the guy doesn't do Floyd Mayweather numbers but that doesn't mean these figures are bad. No one else in the sport is currently selling that many PPVs.

                    Golovkin is the one who needs him. Without Canelo who is he going to draw decent PPV money against?
                    A Pacquiao fight, sure. But how likely is it that Pacquiao comes back and faces him? A Cotto fight? With no belt on the line, and considering how their first fight went? I doubt it.

                    Canelo, along with Oscar, will literally need to get on their knees and beg Cotto for a rematch.

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                    • AddiX
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                      #40
                      With the direct tv sales it did well over 500k.

                      That's a good number for today's standards.

                      No one is going to reach the numbers Floyd did. Floyd/PAC killed boxing ppv interest for a lot of fair weather fans.

                      Also, nobody passed the torch to Alvarez.

                      Oscar passed the torch to PAC and Floyd and made them ppv kings. No one else in boxing is getting passed the torch to them. 500k is new 900k.

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