"Daring to Be Great" Has an Expensive Pricetag and it Always Has

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  • K-Nan
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    #61
    Great post, particularly the point about the initial huge risk that every fighter has to risk for that eventual payday, i.e Pacman fighting Barrera.

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    • Tom Cruise
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      #62
      Originally posted by -PBP-
      The purses for Crawford and Postol are not outrageous in the least bit and if this was 1999, this would not be a PPV. HBO used to pay $6-10 million for fights like Mosley vs. Forest. Neither guy was a draw, their budget was just significantly larger. You can't ignore the facts bro: HBO's budget is approximately $30 million. In the late 90s it was in excess of $100 million. Less money = less fights. FACT.

      Golovkin/Lemeiux happened why? Because Lemieux was "daring to be great" No, because they found the money to pay Lemieux market value for a middleweight championship unification fight.

      You want to live in a world where unification fights and fights between two top fighters in their prime get signed and sealed for $350-500K. That's just not going to happen.

      Since you don't like Mayweather/Corrales, how much did it cost Cory Spinks make to put his titles on the line against Zab Judah? He made $800,000 in the first fight and $1 million in the rematch. Was Spinks a draw? Was that a fight were were anxious to see? No. HBO was just throwing more money around back then.
      Did HBO's budget drop before or after they lost pretty much all of their top fighters to the Al Haymon experiment?

      Because iirc, HBO were splashing plenty of cash around when they had the fighters and fights which were worth the risk.

      I bet if PBC failed and a flood of prime American fighters came back to HBO, you would see their budget increased.

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      • Chuckguy
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        #63
        Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
        That just goes to show you don't know **** about boxing and are a new age fan. Oscar also used an IV to rehydrate in his fight with Manny Pacquiao back in 2008
        1. It wasn't an illegal amount like Floyd
        2. Oscar was fighting at a weight where he hadn't fought in over 5 years
        3. Oscars last fight was around 160 not 147
        4. Floyd fanboys claim his walk around weight is 150 so why does he need an illegal amount of iv for losing 3 pounds?

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        • -PBP-
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          #64
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise
          Did HBO's budget drop before or after they lost pretty much all of their top fighters to the Al Haymon experiment?

          Because iirc, HBO were splashing plenty of cash around when they had the fighters and fights which were worth the risk.

          I bet if PBC failed and a flood of prime American fighters came back to HBO, you would see their budget increased.
          Nah, the budget has been declining since the mid to late 90s. Haymon has nothing to do with it.

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          • Tom Cruise
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            #65
            Originally posted by -PBP-
            Nah, the budget has been declining since the mid to late 90s. Haymon has nothing to do with it.
            so when they had the likes of Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, De la Hoya etc on their books?

            amazing they would be willing to pay more for these guys than they would for Kovalev or GGG.

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            • Box-Office
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              #66
              Khan had the option to make similar $ at WW vs Brook but he chose to go up 2 weights instead. Now tell me how many of those guys had that option?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Box-Office
                Khan had the option to make similar $ at WW vs Brook but he chose to go up 2 weights instead. Now tell me how many of those guys had that option?
                Khan could've made more than $10 mil for Brook?

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                • al-Xander
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                  #68
                  So what do you call it when a guy like Lara fights 3 bums in a row, and about to fight another one, and gets almost $3 million? There's plenty of those nowadays. I mean they don't even have to fight tougher competition, yet still get millions of dollars.

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                  • Box-Office
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Khan could've made more than $10 mil for Brook?
                    He was offered 7 million pounds for Brook. Convert that to US.

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                    • soul_survivor
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                      #70
                      crap thread which makes no sense

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