Malignaggi shreds manny again: "he was a stone cold cheater"

[SilverMiles]

He is pretty audacious for calling Manny out cold like that... But did u guys forget 2009-2010? The strange excuses Manny had for refusing random testing? At one point he said "I am afraid of needles", and the next day a photo surfaces of him sitting with a tattoo artist putting a needle all over his arm. We'll never truly know, but its kinda funny how quickly people seem to forget.

The only issue with this quote is that Many never said that.

You're attributing quotes from Arum and saying Manny said it. The closes you're going to get to Manny saying that was his post fight interview after fighting Morales II, when he said giving blood before the first fight weaken him.

But let's be honest it wasn't no secret Manny didn't like giving blood too close to fights since 2005. The 15 day cut off period and after fight blood sample was more than satisfactory. There's zero drugs Manny can take for an advantage within 15 days before the fight and not show up on an after fight blood drug test.

Paulie is upset Manny dismantled Cotto. Something that Paulie couldn't do.

[Aztekkas]

When I see Paulie fuming about Manny it reminds me of the second to last verse of Eminem's Stan track

[Chorus - *****:]
My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window and I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray, but your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad.

[1st Chorus: volume gradually grows over raindrop background]
[2nd Chorus: full volume with beat right after "thunder" noise]

[Eminem as 'Stan']
Dear Pacman,I wrote you but you still ain't calling
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a problem at the LBC office or something
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
but anyways; **** it, what's been up? Man how's your daughters?
My girlfriend's pregnant, too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her?
I'ma name her Jinkee
I read about your best friend Buboy too, I'm sorry
I had a friend kill himself over some buffet joint who didn't want him
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got your debut tapes and when Singsurst put you on the canvas,
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I like the **** you did with Arum too, that **** was phat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Spoon

[Chorus - *****]

[Eminem as 'Spoon']
Dear Pacman, you still ain't called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad - I just think it's ****ED UP you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me outside the ring
you didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph or Something
Im like ur little brother man, been watching since I was six years old
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
four hours and you just said, "No."
That's pretty ****ty man - you're like my ****ing idol
I want to be just like you man, no one likes you more than I do
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like being lied to
Remember when we met in Vegas- you said if I'd write you
you would write back - see I'm just like you in a way
I never knew my father neither;
he used to always cheat on my mom and beat her
I can relate to what you're saying in your broken English
so when I have a ****ty day, I drift away and put 'em on
'Cause I don't really got **** else so that **** helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo with your name across the chest
Sometimes I even cut myself to see how much it bleeds
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you 'cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous 'cause I talk about you and watch all of ur 24/7's
But she don't know you like I know you Pacman, no one does
She don't know what it was like for people like us growing up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Spoon
-- P.S.
We should be together, too

[Chorus - *****]

[Eminem as 'Stan']
Dear Mister I'm-Too-Good-To-Call-Or-Write-My-Fans,
this'll be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word - I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect
So this is my slow mo vid I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the freeway
Hey Pac, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air Tonight"
about that guy who coulda saved that other guy from drowning
but didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you coulda rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late - I'm on a 1000 downers now, I'm drowsy
and all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall
I love you Pacquiao, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you SCREAM about it
I hope your conscience EATS AT YOU and you can't BREATHE without me
See Pac; [*screaming*] Shut up *****! I'm trying to talk!
Hey Pac, that's my girlfriend screaming in the trunk,
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
'Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die, too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh ****, I forgot, how'm I supposed to send this **** out?
[car tires squeal] [CRASH]
.. [brief silence] .. [LOUD splash]

[Chorus - *****]

[Eminem]
Dear Spoon, I meant to write you sooner but I've just been busy
You said your girlfriend's pregnant now, how far along is she?
Look, I'm really flattered you would call your daughter that
and here's an autograph for your collection you know I got you,
I wrote it on the MP cap
I'm sorry I didn't see you at the fight,I musta missed you
Don't think I did that **** intentionally just to diss you
But what's this **** you said about you like to cut your wrists, too?
I say that **** just clowning dogg,
c'mon - how ****ed up is you?
You got some issues Spoon, I think you need some counseling
to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some
And what's this **** about us meant to be together?
That type of ****'ll make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your girlfriend need each other
or maybe you just need to treat her better
I hope you get to read this letter, I just hope it reaches you in time
before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doing just fine
if you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you but Spoon
why are you so beta? Try to understand, that I do want you as a fan
I just don't want you to do some crazy ****
I seen this one **** on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick
Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge
and had his girlfriend in the trunk, and she was pregnant with his kid
and in the car they found a slow mo tape, but they didn't say who it was to
Come to think about it, his name was... it was you
Damn!

[Larry the boss]

Im going to enjoy reading the posts here...why?? because who ****ing cares??? Manny and Floyd are retired,rich and have moved on with their lives..yet it seems others are stuck in that era with nowhere to go.....lol

[HeroBando]

Is it really crazy to suggest that a guy who got KTFO at 112lbs & who won multiple titles all the way up to 154, usually KTFO outta them, used PEDs? I mean clearly Paulie has issues with Manny specifically, but looking beyond Paulie's obsession with dogging Manny can it ever be crazy to suspect any elite level performer of using PEDs? I say no.

No but you don't point fingers over and over when you got Memo on your payroll, or close your eyes to much more suspect activity by the guys like. Makes you a big time hypocrite

[BillyBoxing]

Malignaggi is just like this ****** wanabe white kid in gran torino licking floyd and ward @sses.he s a phony. So much with this fake ass"real talk"

[Larry the boss]

The only issue with this quote is that Many never said that.

You're attributing quotes from Arum and saying Manny said it. The closes you're going to get to Manny saying that was his post fight interview after fighting Morales II, when he said giving blood before the first fight weaken him.

But let's be honest it wasn't no secret Manny didn't like giving blood too close to fights since 2005. The 15 day cut off period and after fight blood sample was more than satisfactory. There's zero drugs Manny can take for an advantage within 15 days before the fight and not show up on an after fight blood drug test.

Paulie is upset Manny dismantled Cotto. Something that Paulie couldn't do.

except Manny declined the 14 day offer...lol
After reports had surfaced that both parties had agreed to all terms, Golden Boy Promotions released a press release on December 22, 2009, revealing that Pacquiao was unwilling to comply with the Olympic-style drug testing requested by Team Mayweather. The following day, Bob Arum, Top Rank founder and CEO, declared the fight was off and Pacquiao would be facing a different opponent. "We appeased Mayweather by agreeing to a urine analysis at any time, and blood testing before the press conference and after the fight. Mayweather pressed for blood testing even up to the weigh-in. He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken and feels that it weakens him. This is just harassment and, to me, just signaled that he didn't want the fight," Arum told David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press.[26]
Not long after declaring that the fight was off, Arum had a change of heart and offered Mayweather a 24-hour take-it-or-leave-it deadline to accept Team Pacquiao's terms for drug testing. Top Rank sent out a press release explaining their position on Mayweather's request for random Olympic-style drug testing. In it, Arum said Pacquiao was willing to submit to as many random urine tests requested, but as far as random blood tests were concerned, he was only willing to subject himself to 3 tests: one in January, one 30 days from the bout (no later than February 13) and immediately after the fight. "Let's be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It's not about being tested ... It's about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures ... The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous," Arum explained.[27] Freddie Roach told Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times on December 22, 2009, that he would prefer for Pacquiao to give his final blood sample a week before the bout and no later than 72 hours before.
On December 28, 2009, video from an episode of HBO's Pacquiao-Hatton: 24/7 surfaced on the internet showing Pacquiao giving blood in the weeks leading up to his May 2, 2009 bout with Ricky Hatton. Documents confirmed that the video was recorded on April 8, 2009, 24 days prior to the fight and past the 30-day cut-off date that Pacquiao had demanded for a Mayweather fight.[22] Pacquiao filed suit in U.S. District Court in Nevada on December 30, 2009, against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions executives Oscar De La Hoya and Richard Schaefer, alleging that they made false and defamatory statements accusing him of taking performance-enhancing drugs.[28]
Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.

[Code Red]

Does anyone actually take this guy seriously? LMFAO!! He's a fu#king idiot.

I take him seriously and I feel the same way he does regarding Pacquiao cheating the sport by using PEDS, unless you want to act blind, dumb, and ******, Team Pacquiao did all they could to not undergo random blood and urine testing.

We all know why.....And it ain't cause he scared of needles

[Mike D]

[Chorus - *****:]
My tea's gone cold I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all
The morning rain clouds up my window and I can't see at all
And even if I could it'll all be gray, but your picture on my wall
It reminds me, that it's not so bad, it's not so bad.

[1st Chorus: volume gradually grows over raindrop background]
[2nd Chorus: full volume with beat right after "thunder" noise]

[Eminem as 'Stan']
Dear Pacman,I wrote you but you still ain't calling
I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a problem at the LBC office or something
Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot 'em
but anyways; **** it, what's been up? Man how's your daughters?
My girlfriend's pregnant, too, I'm bout to be a father
If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her?
I'ma name her Jinkee
I read about your best friend Buboy too, I'm sorry
I had a friend kill himself over some buffet joint who didn't want him
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I even got your debut tapes and when Singsurst put you on the canvas,
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures man
I like the **** you did with Arum too, that **** was phat
Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
just to chat, truly yours, your biggest fan
This is Spoon

[Chorus - *****]

[Eminem as 'Spoon']
Dear Pacman, you still ain't called or wrote, I hope you have a chance
I ain't mad - I just think it's ****ED UP you don't answer fans
If you didn't wanna talk to me outside the ring
you didn't have to, but you coulda signed an autograph or Something
Im like ur little brother man, been watching since I was six years old
We waited in the blistering cold for you,
four hours and you just said, "No."
That's pretty ****ty man - you're like my ****ing idol
I want to be just like you man, no one likes you more than I do
I ain't that mad though, I just don't like being lied to
Remember when we met in Vegas- you said if I'd write you
you would write back - see I'm just like you in a way
I never knew my father neither;
he used to always cheat on my mom and beat her
I can relate to what you're saying in your broken English
so when I have a ****ty day, I drift away and put 'em on
'Cause I don't really got **** else so that **** helps when I'm depressed
I even got a tattoo with your name across the chest
Sometimes I even cut myself to see how much it bleeds
It's like adrenaline, the pain is such a sudden rush for me
See everything you say is real, and I respect you 'cause you tell it
My girlfriend's jealous 'cause I talk about you and watch all of ur 24/7's
But she don't know you like I know you Pacman, no one does
She don't know what it was like for people like us growing up
You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Spoon
-- P.S.
We should be together, too

[Chorus - *****]

[Eminem as 'Stan']
Dear Mister I'm-Too-Good-To-Call-Or-Write-My-Fans,
this'll be the last package I ever send your ass
It's been six months and still no word - I don't deserve it?
I know you got my last two letters;
I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect
So this is my slow mo vid I'm sending you, I hope you hear it
I'm in the car right now, I'm doing 90 on the freeway
Hey Pac, I drank a fifth of vodka, you dare me to drive?
You know the song by Phil Collins, "In the Air Tonight"
about that guy who coulda saved that other guy from drowning
but didn't, then Phil saw it all, then at a show he found him?
That's kinda how this is, you coulda rescued me from drowning
Now it's too late - I'm on a 1000 downers now, I'm drowsy
and all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall
I love you Pacquiao, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you SCREAM about it
I hope your conscience EATS AT YOU and you can't BREATHE without me
See Pac; [*screaming*] Shut up *****! I'm trying to talk!
Hey Pac, that's my girlfriend screaming in the trunk,
But I didn't slit her throat, I just tied her up, see I ain't like you
'Cause if she suffocates she'll suffer more, and then she'll die, too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh ****, I forgot, how'm I supposed to send this **** out?
[car tires squeal] [CRASH]
.. [brief silence] .. [LOUD splash]

[Chorus - *****]

[Eminem]
Dear Spoon, I meant to write you sooner but I've just been busy
You said your girlfriend's pregnant now, how far along is she?
Look, I'm really flattered you would call your daughter that
and here's an autograph for your collection you know I got you,
I wrote it on the MP cap
I'm sorry I didn't see you at the fight,I musta missed you
Don't think I did that **** intentionally just to diss you
But what's this **** you said about you like to cut your wrists, too?
I say that **** just clowning dogg,
c'mon - how ****ed up is you?
You got some issues Spoon, I think you need some counseling
to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some
And what's this **** about us meant to be together?
That type of ****'ll make me not want us to meet each other
I really think you and your girlfriend need each other
or maybe you just need to treat her better
I hope you get to read this letter, I just hope it reaches you in time
before you hurt yourself, I think that you'll be doing just fine
if you relax a little, I'm glad I inspire you but Spoon
why are you so beta? Try to understand, that I do want you as a fan
I just don't want you to do some crazy ****
I seen this one **** on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick
Some dude was drunk and drove his car over a bridge
and had his girlfriend in the trunk, and she was pregnant with his kid
and in the car they found a slow mo tape, but they didn't say who it was to
Come to think about it, his name was... it was you
Damn!

[respectthebrush]

Paulie has already insinuated that Mayweather took PEDs too. When asked in an interview if he was worried about Pac suing him. He said he didn't have any failed drug tests like others that Pac went after and he had nothing to hide. Dude is a straight up hater.

[SilverMiles]

except Manny declined the 14 day offer...lol
After reports had surfaced that both parties had agreed to all terms, Golden Boy Promotions released a press release on December 22, 2009, revealing that Pacquiao was unwilling to comply with the Olympic-style drug testing requested by Team Mayweather. The following day, Bob Arum, Top Rank founder and CEO, declared the fight was off and Pacquiao would be facing a different opponent. "We appeased Mayweather by agreeing to a urine analysis at any time, and blood testing before the press conference and after the fight. Mayweather pressed for blood testing even up to the weigh-in. He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken and feels that it weakens him. This is just harassment and, to me, just signaled that he didn't want the fight," Arum told David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press.[26]
Not long after declaring that the fight was off, Arum had a change of heart and offered Mayweather a 24-hour take-it-or-leave-it deadline to accept Team Pacquiao's terms for drug testing. Top Rank sent out a press release explaining their position on Mayweather's request for random Olympic-style drug testing. In it, Arum said Pacquiao was willing to submit to as many random urine tests requested, but as far as random blood tests were concerned, he was only willing to subject himself to 3 tests: one in January, one 30 days from the bout (no later than February 13) and immediately after the fight. "Let's be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It's not about being tested ... It's about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures ... The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous," Arum explained.[27] Freddie Roach told Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times on December 22, 2009, that he would prefer for Pacquiao to give his final blood sample a week before the bout and no later than 72 hours before.
On December 28, 2009, video from an episode of HBO's Pacquiao-Hatton: 24/7 surfaced on the internet showing Pacquiao giving blood in the weeks leading up to his May 2, 2009 bout with Ricky Hatton. Documents confirmed that the video was recorded on April 8, 2009, 24 days prior to the fight and past the 30-day cut-off date that Pacquiao had demanded for a Mayweather fight.[22] Pacquiao filed suit in U.S. District Court in Nevada on December 30, 2009, against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions executives Oscar De La Hoya and Richard Schaefer, alleging that they made false and defamatory statements accusing him of taking performance-enhancing drugs.[28]
Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.

14 days or 24 days, it doesn't matter. There's nothing Manny could have used in that time period that wouldn't show up in a post fight blood test.

Are you suggesting he would cycle off steroids a week or 2 before the fight. I heardly think so, yo can still find traces of weed in your piss in that short of a time span.

I have no interest in talking about who fault it was the fight didn't happen in 2010. But if your only su****ion of Manny using steroids is asking for 24-day cut off date than you're an idiot, which Paulie clearly is.