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  • LeftHookLion
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    #1

    Understanding weight. 154, 155, 157....

    Why is it such a big deal? I mean, it's only 5 pounds from 155 to 160. (Using Canelo/golovkin as an example) why is everybody so up in arms about a few pounds and what is the importance of it?
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    #2
    When you torture your body to get to your fight weight, having someone ask you to take off more is not typically welcomed.
    Likewise, when you are able to make weight for a certain weight class and someone asks you to give up several lbs, it plays against your strengths.

    People act ignorant like it only works one way, but will flounder depending which fighter they are defending. If we're looking for the truth, it's a negotiation strategy that does affect the fighters and there's merits to both angles.

    Not, if you have a belt in a certain class and start making your own weight stipulations, that's another issue entirely.

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    • Ray*
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      #3
      When you are a beltholder you are NOT the organisation, you cannot put a restriction on what your opponents can weight, the organisation rules comes first.

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        #4
        There's no problem with it if you don't have a belt.

        Once you have a belt you need to defend it at the stated weight or you're holding everyone else back.

        Canelo is an extreme case though. He's invented a new form of catchweight. Usually a catchweight is an agreement between two fighters in different divisions to meet half way.

        Canelo has ****d that concept and just decided the lightest weight he can cut to is a new weight division. Whether you're his middleweight mandatory or a skinny welterweight, you will fight at the arbitrary division he invented. Period.

        I think for the first time in my life I've become more interested in MMA than boxing. 175/200/HW are all fun but everything below that in boxing is a total joke. Zero suspense. Everything takes 8 years to sign, then when it finally happens the "A-side" details unravel and it's pretty obvious one guy has a 90% chance of winning to the point that even if it isn't fixed, it might as well be.
        Last edited by ////; 05-06-2016, 03:04 AM.

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        • Beercules
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          #5
          Canelo is a champion in the MW division


          Golovkin is a champion in the MW division.



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          • Weltschmerz
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            #6
            Canelo is likely naturally bigger than GGG. Just an observation.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Weltschmerz
              Canelo is likely naturally bigger than GGG. Just an observation.
              The **** even weighs more on fight night

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              • Weltschmerz
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                #8
                Originally posted by Beercules
                The **** even weighs more on fight night
                I mean, where's the argument. Canelo's team is just using the weight issue as a negotiating tool.

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                • Weltschmerz
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                  #9
                  Boxing had 8 weight classes...

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                  • Jubei
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                    #10
                    25 year old fighters can drain himself for the weigh in much better than guys that are 35 years old.

                    They are talking about giving advantages even though Canelo outweighs GGG in the ring on fight night.

                    They can put a rehydration limit to 170 voila if they really cared about giving no advantages.

                    But all they care about is try to weaken and drain GGG.

                    You saw how it affected Dawson, he moved down in weight and was never the same.

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