Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Golovkin Didn't Want Lara - And Canelo Beat Him!

[aboutfkntime]

you idiot. it was short notice fight. would require weight cutting for real MW's.

do you even know how fighting works? you think all mw's walk around at 160?

and your fact #2 is wrong. there was no catch weight.

lol @ this handicap

Ass-hat, Rosado was a JMW, and Golovkin offered him a catchweight.

I distinctly remember him refusing that catchweight, as stated above.

Come correct you clown, you don't get to spout rubbish here.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/1/2/3829346/gabriel-rosado-turns-down-catchweight-golovkin-fight-salido-vs-garcia-hbo-boxing-news

[aboutfkntime]

Halfway down this article...

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/1/2/3829346/gabriel-rosado-turns-down-catchweight-golovkin-fight-salido-vs-garcia-hbo-boxing-news

...Golovkin, 30, was apparently perfectly open to the idea, and his promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 said he was surprised when he heard that the catchweight was off.
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Mayweather held a title at 154...everyone's willing to come down for him. Biggest $$$/exposure fight he could possibly get.

Cotto...not sure when a catchweight was offered or even discussed regarding Cotto who was clearly never interested in fighting GGG.

Brook is a welterweight...not serious at this point...Golovkin says "too small"...doesn't matter what the promoters are saying right now.

Canelo is the WBC MW champ and GGG is his mandatory...it's in writing...If he just wants the belt, GGG won't budge from 160 because he doesn't have to -- he can likely get Canelo later when he feels ready...if GGG really wants the fight, he already knows the weight he's willing to go down to. He'd be ****** to offer it before the negotiations even start. If you were GGG, what would you be saying at this point?....Enlighten me...

That is exactly what I said.

Golovkin was willing to concede a catchweight to Rosado..... just like he was willing to concede one to Mayweather, Cotto, and Brook.

[aboutfkntime]

First of all, don't even pretend that you and the other detractors would give GGG a shred of credit for fighting Lara. Same old crap: He fights him, its a cherry pick. He doesn't fight him, its a duck. So please spare me that bullshit, you're not fooling anyone.

First of all, don't put words into my mouth, you wouldn't have a clue.

I do not have a history of dishonesty.

I WOULD give Golovkin full credit for fighting Lara, because he is obviously avoiding movers/spoilers..... his team have openly admitted they want nothing to do with Lara, and they have used every excuse in the book, just like they did with Ward.

They have repeatedly used every excuse in the book because they do not have 1 genuine reason.

Golovkin is a manufactured fighter, so if he fought Lara against his promoters wishes, LIKE CANELO DID, then I would respect that.

Second, at this point, a fight with Lara now wouldn't make much sense. At the time he fought Rosado, like I said, GGG was hardly even known. NOW he is known so there's a difference.

BULL****, that is a weak excuse.

Lara would be one of the best names on Golovkin's resume, and his first opponent with world-class skills.

You don't dismiss Lara, when this is your resume.....
http://boxrec.com/boxer/356831

Third, Canelo has a middleweight belt and GGG is clearly the top guy at 160. Explain to me why GGG should have to fight Lara instead of Canelo.

I never said he had to fight him instead of Canelo.

I said, Golovkin should sack-up and stop making WEAK excuses to avoid difficult opponents..... Team Bull**** are full-of-it.

[aboutfkntime]

Let's start with Canelo then. It does this fraud also not have a pulse?

Team Golovkin don't want nothing to do with the lil red kid.

The lil red JMW kid

Ask me if Canelo has a pulse if Team Bull**** ever decide to sack up and fight him..... until then it's a moot point.

[bug0092]

That is exactly what I said.

Golovkin was willing to concede a catchweight to Rosado..... just like he was willing to concede one to Mayweather, Cotto, and Brook.

No. You said that after I pointed out GGG had approved a catchweight...The statement I replied to "Rosado wasn't a middleweight, yet Golovkin fought him." implied that GGG was fighting JMWs so he should fight Lara.

I think they'd give Mayweather a catchweight. Don't remember one mentioned for Cotto. Brook is just talk...157's not going to happen.

[aboutfkntime]

No. You said that after I pointed out GGG had approved a catchweight...The statement I replied to "Rosado wasn't a middleweight, yet Golovkin fought him." implied that GGG was fighting JMWs so he should fight Lara.

I think they'd give Mayweather a catchweight. Don't remember one mentioned for Cotto. Brook is just talk...157's not going to happen.

I don't get your point.....

Back when the Rosado/Golovkin fight was in motion, I distinctly remember watching a seckback video where Rosado explained why he didn't request a catchweight from Golovkin..... but I had no idea that Team Golovkin would have been happy to comply.

That means they discussed it..... so, how that somehow reflect well on Golovkin ?

Now we know he was happy to consider a catchweight for Mayweather, Cotto, Rosado..... and Sanchez even stated they would consider 157 for Kell Brook LMAO

I don't get the point you are making..... that is worse, not better.

And this statement is 100% correct....."Rosado wasn't a middleweight, yet Golovkin fought him." implied that GGG was fighting JMWs so he should fight Lara..... there is no reason whatsoever why he shouldn't fight Lara at 160.

[bug0092]

I don't get your point.....

Back when the Rosado/Golovkin fight was in motion, I distinctly remember watching a seckback video where Rosado explained why he didn't request a catchweight from Golovkin..... but I had no idea that Team Golovkin would have been happy to comply.

That means they discussed it..... so, how that somehow reflect well on Golovkin ?

Now we know he was happy to consider a catchweight for Mayweather, Cotto, Rosado..... and Sanchez even stated they would consider 157 for Kell Brook LMAO

I don't get the point you are making..... that is worse, not better.

And this statement is 100% correct....."Rosado wasn't a middleweight, yet Golovkin fought him." implied that GGG was fighting JMWs so he should fight Lara..... there is no reason whatsoever why he shouldn't fight Lara at 160.

The fact that Lara is at 154 shouldn't mean he's not a possibility for GGG. It's only relevant in that Golovkin is looking for MW belts. If he can't get one of those guys in the ring next, why not give Lara the call and see if they can make it work out financially? I'd rather see Lara do something at MW first, but at this point who else is there aside from maybe Jacobs that GGG can fight?

I hope the Canelo fight happens and I think a meet in the middle weight 157/158 is reasonable considering Canelo's size and popularity. There's just something about GGG having to put his 2 belts on the line and his mandatory position at 155 that turns my stomach.

[aboutfkntime]

The fact that Lara is at 154 shouldn't mean he's not a possibility for GGG. It's only relevant in that Golovkin is looking for MW belts. If he can't get one of those guys in the ring next, why not give Lara the call and see if they can make it work out financially? I'd rather see Lara do something at MW first, but at this point who else is there aside from maybe Jacobs that GGG can fight?

I hope the Canelo fight happens and I think a meet in the middle weight 157/158 is reasonable considering Canelo's size and popularity. There's just something about GGG having to put his 2 belts on the line and his mandatory position at 155 that turns my stomach.

That is how Ward fans felt when Golovkin pulled that same stunt on him.

And what Golovkin did is no different to what Canelo is doing.

The guys who are stating that the mandatory somehow makes it different are just making weak protectionist excuses..... Golovkin objected to the Canelo catchweight because he is "old school..... and I respect the sport of boxing"..... not because of some mandatory clause that he could simply ignore anyway.

Maybe Golovkin is "old school..... and I respect the sport of boxing" when discussing Canelo..... but he certainly wasn't "old school..... and I respect the sport of boxing" when he was discussing Ward.

I agree that there is no reason why Golovkin cannot fight Lara..... or anyone else who happens to be better than the guys he is fighting..... the money/boring excuses are just rubbish.

I doubt that Canelo will fight at 160 yet, he will probably rematch Mayweather next at 155..... realistically, I think the best option for Golovkin is to wait for the Jacobs/Saunders winner, pretty sure that those guys will fight each other next/soon.

[Derranged]

First of all, don't put words into my mouth, you wouldn't have a clue.

I do not have a history of dishonesty.

I WOULD give Golovkin full credit for fighting Lara, because he is obviously avoiding movers/spoilers..... his team have openly admitted they want nothing to do with Lara, and they have used every excuse in the book, just like they did with Ward.

They have repeatedly used every excuse in the book because they do not have 1 genuine reason.

Golovkin is a manufactured fighter, so if he fought Lara against his promoters wishes, LIKE CANELO DID, then I would respect that.





BULL****, that is a weak excuse.

Lara would be one of the best names on Golovkin's resume, and his first opponent with world-class skills.

You don't dismiss Lara, when this is your resume.....
http://boxrec.com/boxer/356831





I never said he had to fight him instead of Canelo.

I said, Golovkin should sack-up and stop making WEAK excuses to avoid difficult opponents..... Team Bull**** are full-of-it.

I didn't put words in your mouth, you just strike me as your average GGG detractor. Also, I don't think Lara wants the fight, he's just talking crap. Its not that I'm opposed to a Lara fight if has to happen, but calling it a "duck" is ****** because Lara's in a different weight class and really hasn't done anything to earn a shot at the top middleweight.

[aboutfkntime]

I didn't put words in your mouth, you just strike me as your average GGG detractor. Also, I don't think Lara wants the fight, he's just talking crap. Its not that I'm opposed to a Lara fight if has to happen, but calling it a "duck" is ****** because Lara's in a different weight class and really hasn't done anything to earn a shot at the top middleweight.

Fair enough.....

But, Canelo could have made a pile of excuses to avoid Lara as well.

And it's not like Golovkin has anything better to do.

What made that a duck was this.....

They did not say that "Lara's in a different weight class and really hasn't done anything to earn a shot"..... because Rosado wasn't a middleweight and he hadn't done anything to earn his shot either, and yet they had no problem fighting him..... instead, they lied and stated that Willie Monroe is a bigger draw.

I want to know why they have a HUGE pile of excuses to avoid Lara, just like they had with Ward..... both movers/spoilers who are notoriously difficult to look good against..... coming up with a genuine reason is one thing, but they have used every excuse in the book..... they clearly want nothing to do with Lara.