Comments Thread For: Garcia: If Golovkin Will Face Floyd at 154, Then Face Canelo at 155

[BillyBoxing]

He fought Trout before he fought Floyd.

He weighed in at 153 1/2 lbs at the weigh in against Trout.

The fight was at the 154 limit.

Struggling my ass.

And?

My mistake about Trout but you didn't answer my question about this sadly famous 155 weight.

So he fought Lara, Angulo, Kirkland at 155.

Why if he can make 154 without struggling?

[BillyBoxing]

GGG can have that belt, but will he get that dough? Did you see what Amir Khan is getting? That's definitely worth 5lbs.!

Lol so the logic now is he does have to make it because it makes sense business wise even it doesn't make sense sport wise...

[GGG Gloveking]

The man has a point.

Lil triple flop was willing to go to 154 to face pacquaio or mayweather for a MONEY fight but that didnt work out and they are retired now their is another MONEY fight on the table at 155 yet he dont want it.

Intresting to think lil triple flop only was willing to make conession when the concession is still an advantage for him and he knows he can win, Gabe rosado glorified sparring partner lil flop had no issue with a catchweight, pac and may way smaller than him so he had no issue going down in weight to face them cause he knew he will still be bigger and can beat them, froch and chavez jr are past it not the best figthers lil flop has no issue going up to fight them at 168 but ]against ward he wanted ward to go down to a catchweight (4lbs below the official SMW limit) and ward to defend his super title against him at a catch weight, but when canelo offers lil flop those exact same terms OH no all of a sudden canelo is out of line he must respect boxing and lil flop only cares about legacy. GTFOH

First off, Canelo-Golovkin would be a TITLE fight first, and a MONEY fight second. Adhering to the rules regarding championship fights should supersede bending over for the "A side".

Secondly, Im not sure what you mean by Rosado and a catchweight. That fight was fought at the full 160.

The most disturbing part of your post is the misrepresentation of the two offers. Golovkin offered Ward 164, which is exactly half of the weight of the division. Canelos offer is the bare minimum of the weight class. Halfway would be 157.5, not 155. To better understand the difference in the two offers, just compare the fractions 4/8 and 5/6. Golovkin asked Ward to come down 4/8. Canelo asked Golovkin to come down 5/6.

[PunchyPotorff]

Yes, I get Bob's point, he should do it for the payday. My answer about this part is, who the f@ck he's?
Golovkin's banker?Golovkin's wife? Where you and Bob are wrong is Golovkin is a real competitor, not a ********** giving his @ss to Canelo for money.
Dude as an amateur was a world champion and a silver medalist in the olympics + numerous continental titles, he does like to win. Mexican fans are calling Canelo a puss% on his facebook , at least they're keeping it real.
My opinion is GGG would be a fool to go down to 155.

If one of the best known and most in-demand trainers Robert Garcia's opinion isn't allowed (according to you)... then yours sure as fek doesn't mean anything.

And BTW, you must still be young and think you're King Of The World. Because when you grow up you'll realize, anyone would be extremely lucky to get an opportunity for a $5-10 mil paycheck in their life. And anyone would be an ignorant fool to pass it up. When you're 50-60-70 years old you may wake up and realize the truth in that. Or you may just go to your grave still being a fool. I did some foolish things when I was younger that I regret now. Everyone does. It takes a real fool to make ****** decisions about money at the level GGG is at. Notice I made NO mention of his accomplishments. THAT doesn't feking matter, Mr Steel Plated Head. And even if he'd consider it 'tainted money', so what? He could just donate his portion to Alzheimers Research. Go find a tree in your back yard to talk principle to. That makes as much sense as pizzing away a huge paycheck. 'Principle' won't pay the bills when you're an old man struggling to get by.

[PunchyPotorff]

First off, Canelo-Golovkin would be a TITLE fight first, and a MONEY fight second. Adhering to the rules regarding championship fights should supersede bending over for the "A side".

Secondly, Im not sure what you mean by Rosado and a catchweight. That fight was fought at the full 160.

The most disturbing part of your post is the misrepresentation of the two offers. Golovkin offered Ward 164, which is exactly half of the weight of the division. Canelos offer is the bare minimum of the weight class. Halfway would be 157.5, not 155. To better understand the difference in the two offers, just compare the fractions 4/8 and 5/6. Golovkin asked Ward to come down 4/8. Canelo asked Golovkin to come down 5/6.

I can't believe the ignorance. MONEY is NUMBER ONE. Principle is #2. Like I said recently, principle won't pay the bills when you're an old man struggling to get by. Dig?? Take the rest of your 'argument' and throw it out the window, because it means zero when a once-in-a-lifetime huge paycheck is waved in your face.

[icha]

First off, Canelo-Golovkin would be a TITLE fight first, and a MONEY fight second. Adhering to the rules regarding championship fights should supersede bending over for the "A side".

Secondly, Im not sure what you mean by Rosado and a catchweight. That fight was fought at the full 160.

The most disturbing part of your post is the misrepresentation of the two offers. Golovkin offered Ward 164, which is exactly half of the weight of the division. Canelos offer is the bare minimum of the weight class. Halfway would be 157.5, not 155. To better understand the difference in the two offers, just compare the fractions 4/8 and 5/6. Golovkin asked Ward to come down 4/8. Canelo asked Golovkin to come down 5/6.

is that the reason for GGG steping aside time after time instead of actually demanding the fight or the title???

[PunchyPotorff]

This is a mind bogglingly ****** and cynical post. You are basically saying that Golovkin should sell his pride, his integrity, and his fans down the river for a big payday against Canelo .. by fighting for 3 world title belts, plus the lineal MW crown, at a weight he knows will give him little chance of winning.. Would anybody seriously be interested in watching a fight that went down on those terms? What reason would boxing fans have to pay their hard earned money to watch a cynical, bullshit money grab like that? What Golovkin should do is tell Canelo and Oscar where to shove their bribe money, insist on 160 lbs or nothing, get Canelo stripped of the WBC belt if he won't accept it, then fight him for 80% of the purse when he comes round begging for a MW title shot cus he can't make 154 any more.

Here... I'll just re-post these 2 comments. If you're still too dense to realize only a fool would pass-up THAT kind of money, you and GGG deserve each other. You can try to get by paying the bills with your precious 'principle' when you're both old men...

Because when you grow up you'll realize, anyone would be extremely lucky to get an opportunity for a $5-10 mil paycheck in their life. And anyone would be an ignorant fool to pass it up. When you're 50-60-70 years old you may wake up and realize the truth in that. Or you may just go to your grave still being a fool. I did some foolish things when I was younger that I regret now. Everyone does. It takes a real fool to make ****** decisions about money at the level GGG is at. Notice I made NO mention of his accomplishments. THAT doesn't feking matter, Mr Steel Plated Head. And even if he'd consider it 'tainted money', so what? He could just donate his portion to Alzheimers Research. Go find a tree in your back yard to talk principle to. That makes as much sense as pizzing away a huge paycheck. 'Principle' won't pay the bills when you're an old man struggling to get by.

I can't believe the ignorance. MONEY is NUMBER ONE. Principle is #2. Like I said recently, principle won't pay the bills when you're an old man struggling to get by. Dig?? Take the rest of your 'argument' and throw it out the window, because it means zero when a once-in-a-lifetime huge paycheck is waved in your face.

GGG can STILL have a career AFTER the Canelo fight. This wouldn't somehow ruin him for life. Maybe in your eyes... but you're just acting like a fool in the minority. Maybe you're not even bright enough to realize the depth of this being a business first and foremost.

[GGG Gloveking]

I can't believe the ignorance. MONEY is NUMBER ONE. Principle is #2. Like I said recently, principle won't pay the bills when you're an old man struggling to get by. Dig?? Take the rest of your 'argument' and throw it out the window, because it means zero when a once-in-a-lifetime huge paycheck is waved in your face.

Thats your opinion and you're entitled to it, but there is no need to go calling me ignorant because my opinion is different. Gokovkin is worth $25M, so if he is going to be struggling as an old man, he needs a financial advisor more than another paycheck to squander. Most people would never have to work another day of life with that kind of money.

I guess its a lot easier to just say "throw your argument out the window", than actually try ti debate the merits of it. Interesting, since my argument is a mathematical one. You, being a "money first" guy, should have no problems debating numbers and figures.

Some people fight for gold. Some fight for glory...

[GGG Gloveking]

is that the reason for GGG steping aside time after time instead of actually demanding the fight or the title???

I dont see the correlation youre trying to make. Golovkin stepping aside for Cotto has absolutely nothing to do with Canelo and Golovkin. It also has no bearing at all on the fact that it would be a mandatory title fight which should be contested in accordance with the WBC rules, rather than GGG making concessions to the"A side". That was the crux of my statement. That being a title fight supersedes any revenue involved. Please explain how taking a step aside plays into that situation.

[Mr. 29K]

You don't believe it.

Of course I do. Canelo - The new face of boxing- said 155 is there. All he needs to do is sign, yet Triple Flop keeps ducking him.