Its a mistake to call out GGG

[Citizen Koba]

The only guy GGG ducked was Ward , he just side steps the others issuing lame excuses and the slurpers swallow it all , same fans did the same with Manny , you never hear saying Manny can fight GGG and Gennady called Manny out , that one just dont get mentioned .lol .

See the same ol pattern , anything their hero does is what they will argue for .

Read slowly all thee GGG slurpers .

Its not Ward , its not Lara , its not Brook , its not Ramirez .

ITS ALL OF THEM .

Lara I can see the reasoning behind at least - the guy has proved himself as top dog at JMW, but brings minimal reward. Still it's a fight I wouldn't mind seeing. But Brook? Really? What a conniving snake GGG is! - 'side stepping' Welters! You're right, the man has no shame. I'm taking him off my Christmas card list! And Ramirez. Goddamn it, how can a duck get any blatant? - GGGs even pretending he wants to fight him to throw people off the scent! What a scoundrel!

Which leaves Ward. Massive risk. Big reward. But can you really blame GGG for choosing to pursue the big $s Cotto / Canelo unifier over the tricky and uncertain path to SMW glory when it seemed in the palm of his hand? Seems like common sense to me. Bigger money, easier fight. No brainer. You'd be defending Golovkin using that exact same argument if you happened to like him.

It's all about risk and reward, baby, risk and reward.









Still can't stop @ GGG ducking Kell. You weren't actually serious were you?

[b00g13man]

No, that wasnt the implication. I said " You know it, I know it and the Golovkin hate train knows it." See the separation there between you and any hate. Yea, the wade fight was a forgone conclusion just like a Lara fight to a lesser extent would be. It was a mandatory, what do you want the guy to do? My point was and is lets get him in the ring with some real threats, not some chicken leg jmw who is going to get blasted inside of 5 rounds.

My bad. I sort of jumped to the wrong conclusion on the "hate" thing.

My problem is, I don't see anyone other than Canelo at mw posing any problems, and moving up doesn't really seem to be happening, so I'd rather he faced Lara than a Wade or Monroe type again.

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Lara I can see the reasoning behind at least - the guy has proved himself as top dog at JMW, but brings minimal reward. Still it's a fight I wouldn't mind seeing. But Brook? Really? What a conniving snake GGG is! - 'side stepping' Welters! You're right, the man has no shame. I'm taking him off my Christmas card list! And Ramirez. Goddamn it, how can a duck get any blatant? - GGGs even pretending he wants to fight him to throw people off the scent! What a scoundrel!

Which leaves Ward. Massive risk. Big reward. But can you really blame GGG for choosing to pursue the big $s Cotto / Canelo unifier over the tricky and uncertain path to SMW glory when it seemed in the palm of his hand? Seems like common sense to me. Bigger money, easier fight. No brainer. You'd be defending Golovkin using that exact same argument if you happened to like him.

It's all about risk and reward, baby, risk and reward.









Still can't stop @ GGG ducking Kell. You weren't actually serious were you?

Where did I say DUCK , I said he DUCKED Ward and side stepped the others , and thats a lot of the problem with you guys you cant look at anything in a rational logical way without going all fanboy .

You have GGGs resume which is very poor , you have Monroe and Wade very recent .

You have GGG calling out a bunch of retired guys from 154 to 172 .

You have genuine elite fighters willing to fight him inside those weights .

You have GGG saying why he can fight one guy and then giving a very contradictory bunch of reasons why he cant fight others that are willing to fight him .

He is no spring chicken and running out of time .

Add it all up .

[Sun_Tzu]

My bad. I sort of jumped to the wrong conclusion on the "hate" thing.

My problem is, I don't see anyone other than Canelo at mw posing any problems, and moving up doesn't really seem to be happening, so I'd rather he faced Lara than a Wade or Monroe type again.

There is no MW that poses a threat to him. He KOs Jacobs I think fairly quickly but there maybe some sparks very early, Saunders will fold up like a lawn chair, Lee would be a fun fight for me because I think he has the power to make Golovkin respectful and to be honest I like Lee because I love Manny Steward. Eubank gets the **** beat out of him and wrecked. Canelo catches the ass whipping of the century for making him wait if he ever finds the nads to get in the ring with him. Im sure Im forgetting a few good MWs but MWs arent what Im talking about when I say I want to see him in against real threats. I want the guy to get his goal, unify and move on up like the Jeffersons. Then we see what this guy has because he is small. I want to see what he can do and I think he does to but he has a goal and i understand it.

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[Citizen Koba]

Where did I say DUCK , I said he DUCKED Ward and side stepped the others , and thats a lot of the problem with you guys you cant look at anything in a rational logical way without going all fanboy .

You have GGGs resume which is very poor , you have Monroe and Wade very recent .

You have GGG calling out a bunch of retired guys from 154 to 172 .

You have genuine elite fighters willing to fight him inside those weights .

You have GGG saying why he can fight one guy and then giving a very contradictory bunch of reasons why he cant fight others that are willing to fight him .

He is no spring chicken and running out of time .

Add it all up .

Side-stepped, ducked, you say tomato bla bla. Everyone knows GGGs resume sucks, just pointing out that Ramirez and Brook are really, really ****** examples to use.

Lara's better. I don't think he would have much of a hope against GGG but at least he's well respected at JMW. I'd like that fight. But why in hell would he go pursuing Lara when he's mandated to fight Canelo (or previously Cotto)?

Then there's Ward. Would you put Golovkin in against Ward if you were his manager?

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Side-stepped, ducked, you say tomato bla bla. Everyone knows GGGs resume sucks, just pointing out that Ramirez and Brook are really, really ****** examples to use.

Lara's better. I don't think he would have much of a hope against GGG but at least he's well respected at JMW. I'd like that fight. But why in hell would he go pursuing Lara when he's mandated to fight Canelo (or previously Cotto)?

Then there's Ward. Would you put Golovkin in against Ward if you were his manager?

What do you mean ****** examples , they are some of the guys calling him out , they not an example they part of the whole .

And again you are not comparing those guys to the guys he is fighting , they are better thats the reason people dont except his reasons for saying no to them and fighting bums .

Do you understand the reasons he gives contradict the guys he wants to fight , do you understand telling Ward for him only its 164 but the others can be 168-172 , do you understand Brook is undefeated WW champ that steps in at 165lbs while Floyd Manny and Bradley are no more than very low 150s on fight night , and then he says Brook is too small .

Man if this was a court room and GGG said all he does on the stand he would be thrown out of court .

In light of all he has done and what we know do you agree that he ducked Ward ?

[Citizen Koba]

What do you mean ****** examples , they are some of the guys calling him out , they not an example they part of the whole .

And again you are not comparing those guys to the guys he is fighting , they are better thats the reason people dont except his reasons for saying no to them and fighting bums .

Do you understand the reasons he gives contradict the guys he wants to fight , do you understand telling Ward for him only its 164 but the others can be 168-172 , do you understand Brook is undefeated WW champ that steps in at 165lbs while Floyd Manny and Bradley are no more than very low 150s on fight night , and then he says Brook is too small .

Man if this was a court room and GGG said all he does on the stand he would be thrown out of court .

In light of all he has done and what we know do you agree that he ducked Ward ?

****** examples because he said yes he will fight Zurdo if he can't get a MW unifier and because fighting Kell Brook - a Welter, albeit a good one - would bring even more ridicule than the guys he already fights, who are at least legit MWs.

Degale would have been a better example, but as with Zurdo Loeffler expressed an interest once the MW unification BS gets cleared, so I ain't quite sure whether you'd consider these 'side-steps' or just rational choices. Like all the rest of this BS it depends which side of the fence you stand.

And yes, I understand all of that. Money talks. Fighters make decisions on a risk / reward basis like all other rational people. I don't call other fighters out for doing it so why would I call GGG out for it?

And 'ducking' Ward? Well depends... you could call it prudent decision making, but if you want to call it ducking, why not? I personally find the term disrespectful because of the implication of cowardice, but if that's the language you like to use then fair enough.

[LetOutTheCage]

I would like to see GGG fight a Lara,Jacobs, Eubank or move up and fight one of the top guys at 168 if the Canelo or Saunders fights dont happen anytime soon.

For those saying GGG ducked Lara, Lara's own manager said that no official offers have been made. If their so interested in the fight they need to make an official offer

[torosboxing75]

People DO care about that fight. Canelo v Lara did about 3x what GGG vs Lemieux did. Lara is not a draw on his own but compelling matchups DO sell and boxing has proved that. Yet, Genady still avoids.

Canelo is not fighting GGG right now so the Canelo vs GGG argument is mute in relation to Lara.

Financials, contracts, etc are all negotiable and to rely on them as an excuse to not even try is transparent. A lot of "impossible" fights are being made (including Canelo/Kahn) because guys actually TRIED to make them happen. team GGG is making no effort, not because they can't make the fight, or because there is no money, or even because Lara isn't a threat.
It's because there is a danger in fighting a guy like Lara (ask Canelo) and they do not want to take the risk.

It's pathetic because GGG is good enough to take fights like this. Sadly, the only bravado coming from that whole team is just talk. I'm not bashing him as a fighter. I really like him as a fighter and want to see more than this garbage career path.


One of many good posts you've made in this thread. It's very apparent why people are trying so hard to discredit this fight. I can't get my mind around people who want their fave guy to take easy fights. Imagine if GGG was ****ing down Adonnis Stevenson's door and Stevenson wouldn't even respond. People here would go APE SHYT. Ape-fking-shyt!

Nobody cares for Lara vs GGG outside of GGG haters. If GGG would've fought him and beat him down like we all know he would, the same people here talking trash would still be here hating on him saying "Why's GGG fighting smaller dudes like Lara doe"