This Concept That Canelo Was "Green" When Floyd Fought Him Is Nonsensical

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  • Razcal26
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    #21
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    He was 172 vs Trout, one fight prior. That's a whole division
    Can you show me this? Or is this "we've been told he weighs X tonight"?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
      People need to stop saying Floyd fought a "green" Canelo. Before the fight people were making Canelo out to be some unstoppable monster that Floyd would not dare face. After Floyd beats him in a shut out people go back on their claims and say Canelo was too young. People need to stop making excuses by retroactively going back on their initial claims.

      At the time Floyd fought Canelo, he was 22 going on 23 with a record of 42-0-1 and had been a professional 8 years. If you have done anything in your life for 8 years absolutely no one would call that being "green". Canelo had also competed in two divisions and was the WBC light middleweight champion.

      No one discredits Duran's win over Leonard because Leonard was 23 years old and only fought pro for 4 years. No one makes excuses for Tyson for losing to Douglas at 23 years old while being pro for five years. So why make excuses for Canelo who had been a professional for EIGHT years by calling him green?
      This logic is even worse considering the fact that Mayweather was pushing 40 and had been a semi active fighter himself when he beat Canelo.

      Just admit Mayweather is a better fighter than Canelo ever could be.
      He wasn't green. He was stripped of his weight advantage, that was it. He was only 165 fight night weight. Not 172 like against Trout.

      He relies a lot on being the bigger man. That night he outweighed Floyd by 5 or 7 lbs, and he was facing a very fast opponent. He looked like the shiet he is without the weight advantage.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Razcal26
        Can you show me this? Or is this "we've been told he weighs X tonight"?
        This just proves how ignorant you are. It was in the news back in the day.



        Reeplace 0 with o. Or ****ing google by yourself you ignorant.

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          #24
          Originally posted by _Maxi
          This just proves how ignorant you are. It was in the news back in the day.



          Reeplace 0 with o. Or ****ing google by yourself you ignorant.
          Are you an idiot?

          I want to see what he weighs on fight night, not be told. What proof does that guy have that Canelo weighed that?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Razcal26
            Can you show me him weighing above 165 on fight night please in any of his fights?
            I said he walks around @ 170. The point is that he rehydrated 11 pounds overnight, after draining himself down to 154. Who gains 11 pounds over night? It's easy to gain weight, but hard as hell to lose it.

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              #26
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
              I said he walks around @ 170. The point is that he rehydrated 11 pounds overnight, after draining himself down to 154. Who gains 11 pounds over night? It's easy to gain weight, but hard as hell to lose it.
              Dude, I don't care about his walking around weight.

              Many people here claim Floyd walks around at 160. He loses the weight to go to 147 then apparently comes in at fight night at 150. I don't see anybody saying Floyd was drained.

              I just what some proof of this, even his 165 weight against Floyd was unofficial.

              If you don't have it, that's fine. I'm not accusing you of anything, I just want to see it.

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                #27
                Canelo choked big time under the pressure and put forth one of the worst performances I've ever seen.

                Canelo had a way worse performance than Maidana and I think we can all agree that he's better than Maidana.

                But the performance was just terrible. It was one of those performances that you can't take anything positive out of it. It was a performance that didn't really inspire either.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Razcal26
                  Dude, I don't care about his walking around weight.

                  Many people here claim Floyd walks around at 160. He loses the weight to go to 147 then apparently comes in at fight night at 150. I don't see anybody saying Floyd was drained.

                  I just what some proof of this, even his 165 weight against Floyd was unofficial.

                  If you don't have it, that's fine. I'm not accusing you of anything, I just want to see it.
                  Proof! What do want, official documents from the sanctioning body? And it's been said many times during fights that Floyd has trouble getting bigger than 150. You're trolling.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Razcal26
                    Are you an idiot?

                    I want to see what he weighs on fight night, not be told. What proof does that guy have that Canelo weighed that?
                    You keep being ignorant. It even appeared on an official boxingscene post

                    For the first time since 2007, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is fighting for a second time in a single calendar year. Back then, Mayweather established his pay-per-view star by fighting reigning PPV king Oscar de la Hoya in May, then burnished it by stopping the previously unbeaten Ricky Hatton seven months later. Since then, the "Money Mayweather" character has made him a mega-millionaire and Manny Pacquiao's back-to-back losses enabled him to become the first man to regain the pound-for-pound throne after having lost it. His critics point to his cherry-picking of opponents in recent years -- too green, too slow, too old, too small -- but the man who will stand opposite Mayweather on Saturday is none of these things. At 23, Saul Alvarez is 13 years younger. With 44 official fights on his record, Alvarez is hardly a greenhorn in boxing and as the owner of two belts at 154, he certainly has the size. One of the major questions surrounding Alvarez, however, is whether his considerable assets are enough to offset Mayweather's Einstein-like boxing IQ and advantages in hand and foot speed. Money's a 12-5 favorite (as of 9/3/13).


                    What you gonna say now?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Razcal26
                      Dude, I don't care about his walking around weight.

                      Many people here claim Floyd walks around at 160. He loses the weight to go to 147 then apparently comes in at fight night at 150. I don't see anybody saying Floyd was drained.

                      I just what some proof of this, even his 165 weight against Floyd was unofficial.

                      If you don't have it, that's fine. I'm not accusing you of anything, I just want to see it.

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