Is K2 incapable of making big fights?

**krazyn8tive** · 04-26-2016, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by about.thousands

Wlad and Vitali always made big fights, they're the owners of the company. But for other fighters under the K2 banner they haven't had much luck. GGG has been the mandatory challenger for the WBC MW belt since 2014. Not only didn't he get Martinez, he didn't get Cotto, and he didn't get Canelo. I can't think of another situation like this. Can you? I remember when Lewis was a mando to Bowe and Bowe didn't want to fight him. Lewis forced Bowe to drop the belt. It didn't hurt Lewis career one bit. He went on to have a more successful career than Bowe.

The biggest fight money-wise is Canelo-GGG. The biggest fight amongst hardcore fans is Estrada-Gonzalez. Not only aren't those fights be made, those two aren't making any big fights in the interim.

The politics of the sport have ruined the sport.

**about.thousands** · 04-26-2016, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by krazyn8tive

The politics of the sport have ruined the sport.

This is nothing compared to when the sport was run by the Mob.

**Dean_Razorback** · 04-26-2016, 08:33 PM

can you spend a day without making a GGG thread?

**HeroBando** · 04-26-2016, 08:34 PM

It's not K2 that are blocking the Canelo fight duh. Gonzalez hasn't even been with them for very long

**about.thousands** · 04-26-2016, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by HeroBando

It's not K2 that are blocking the Canelo fight duh. Gonzalez hasn't even been with them for very long

Gonzalez-Estrada shouldn't be that hard of a fight to make. They both claim they want to fight one another. There's no network or promoter problems. What's holding this fight up? It's been years

**about.thousands** · 04-26-2016, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Dean_Razorback

can you spend a day without making a GGG thread?

This is a K2 thread. Wlad, Vitali, and Gonzalez are also mentioned.

**Scipio2009** · 04-26-2016, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by about.thousands

Wlad and Vitali always made big fights, they're the owners of the company. But for other fighters under the K2 banner they haven't had much luck. GGG has been the mandatory challenger for the WBC MW belt since 2014. Not only didn't he get Martinez, he didn't get Cotto, and he didn't get Canelo. I can't think of another situation like this. Can you? I remember when Lewis was a mando to Bowe and Bowe didn't want to fight him. Lewis forced Bowe to drop the belt. It didn't hurt Lewis career one bit. He went on to have a more successful career than Bowe.

The biggest fight money-wise is Canelo-GGG. The biggest fight amongst hardcore fans is Estrada-Gonzalez. Not only aren't those fights be made, those two aren't making any big fights in the interim.

K2 is use to being the "promoter of the heavyweight champions", and don't seem to grasp the concept of being dictated to.

Any other promotional outfit, with a fighter like Golovkin being in the situation that he is, would've jumped all over the Ward offer (if they believed in their guy, they would've had their debut PPV with Lemieux and immediately have followed that up with a follow-up PPV event, this time with the weight of HBO behind the effort).

Rather than take the deal, they fought Lemieux, and then left Golovkin in the lurch, openly laying out terms on a fight where they don't have the leverage to lay out any terms for (not only are the fighting the weight that Canelo wants for the fight, they haven't even publicly gone into any negotiation over the split on the fight; folks laughed it off, but somewhere between 90/10 Alvarez and 85/15 Alvarez is likely all Oscar has been authorized by Alvarez to offer up for the fight).

Golovkin's going to be handed his third belt, HBO will try to market Golovkin as this three-belt champion, and the audience won't give a ****.

**about.thousands** · 04-26-2016, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by Scipio2009

K2 is use to being the "promoter of the heavyweight champions", and don't seem to grasp the concept of being dictated to.

Any other promotional outfit, with a fighter like Golovkin being in the situation that he is, would've jumped all over the Ward offer (if they believed in their guy, they would've had their debut PPV with Lemieux and immediately have followed that up with a follow-up PPV event, this time with the weight of HBO behind the effort).

Rather than take the deal, they fought Lemieux, and then left Golovkin in the lurch, openly laying out terms on a fight where they don't have the leverage to lay out any terms for (not only are the fighting the weight that Canelo wants for the fight, they haven't even publicly gone into any negotiation over the split on the fight; folks laughed it off, but somewhere between 90/10 Alvarez and 85/15 Alvarez is likely all Oscar has been authorized by Alvarez to offer up for the fight).

Golovkin's going to be handed his third belt, HBO will try to market Golovkin as this three-belt champion, and the audience won't give a ****.

That's a damn good point and I've never thought of that. Like I said, Vitali and Wlad have always had big fights but GGG and Gonzalez aren't getting big fights.

**HeroBando** · 04-26-2016, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by about.thousands

Gonzalez-Estrada shouldn't be that hard of a fight to make. They both claim they want to fight one another. There's no network or promoter problems. What's holding this fight up? It's been years

Cause these guys want a million each, and neither is even a headliner. It's tough being 112. But Loeffler said they'll have him headline soon

Is K2 incapable of making big fights?