Comments Thread For: Berchelt Offered Cruz, Martinez-Lomachenko Questions Remain

[tiliheels]

This whole situation has been a big mess. Top Rank really didn't think this out.
Loma better not vacate his Featherweight belt. The Martinez fight is almost pointless without a belt.
I don't like how Top Rank is handling his career. They're only giving him two fights per year and are just making Loma look bad in my opinion.

it's about time to admit that lomo could have offered a titleless walters at 126 a fight...WITH EVEN PURSES..now if you win mess...and if walters didnt wmake weight fight a replacment opponent..that is the level of comp he's been fightin lately right?

also time to admit that walters at 130 is the best fight for lomo and tr...but the screwed the pooch and priced themselves out.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

it's about time to admit that lomo could have offered a titleless walters at 126 a fight...WITH EVEN PURSES..now if you win mess...and if walters didnt wmake weight fight a replacment opponent..that is the level of comp he's been fightin lately right?

also time to admit that walters at 130 is the best fight for lomo and tr...but the screwed the pooch and priced themselves out.

Can Walters make 126? I seriously doubt it. Why didn't he try to fight at Featherweight after the Marriaga fight then? He went straight to 130 afterwards and he asked for the Loma fight to take place at 130. That's how confident Walters was about making 126.
And stop with that BS replacement opponent stuff. So Top Rank is supposed to get Loma an opponent the day before the fight if Walters fails to make weight? You know how ****** that sounds?
Walters would escape without any criticism, while Lomachenko would get all the criticism for fighting an opponent on so short notice.

Walters has made negotiations with Loma hell since they were both Featherweights. Walters fooled a lot of people into thinking that Loma was the one that was scared. And I'm not even saying Walters is scared of Loma, because I don't think he is, but Loma has been the one chasing the fight since they were both at Featherweight! People seem to forget that though.
Just accept it, Walters didn't want it just like Rigo didn't want it. The two guys Loma was supposed to be scared of. That's what makes it funnier.

Don't you worry though, Walters may still get it. Loma has to move on now though. He has wasted a lot of time on Walters. Loma can't sit there and wait for that diva. Thanks to Walters Loma did not get to fight this month.

[tiliheels]

Can Walters make 126? I seriously doubt it. Why didn't he try to fight at Featherweight after the Marriaga fight then? He went straight to 130 afterwards and he asked for the Loma fight to take place at 130. That's how confident Walters was about making 126.
And stop with that BS replacement opponent stuff. So Top Rank is supposed to get Loma an opponent the day before the fight if Walters fails to make weight? You know how ****** that sounds?
Walters would escape without any criticism, while Lomachenko would get all the criticism for fighting an opponent on so short notice.

Walters has made negotiations with Loma hell since they were both Featherweights. Walters fooled a lot of people into thinking that Loma was the one that was scared. And I'm not even saying Walters is scared of Loma, because I don't think he is, but Loma has been the one chasing the fight since they were both at Featherweight! People seem to forget that though.
Just accept it, Walters didn't want it just like Rigo didn't want it. The two guys Loma was supposed to be scared of. That's what makes it funnier.

Don't you worry though, Walters may still get it. Loma has to move on now though. He has wasted a lot of time on Walters. Loma can't sit there and wait for that diva. Thanks to Walters Loma did not get to fight this month.

he said he would do it for lomo..lomo wanted no parts of it..like i said if walters did not make it then fight a fill in opponent..neither of us can name his last 2 opponents lol...bro u could have a replacement opponent on ice for 2 or 3 months if you wanted..u know how many guys would take that fight?? its a shot at a title my dude..lomo got **** for fighting nobodies on long notice so wat is the difference?

diva? the guy who demanded the most money with 6 fights and a loss or athe guy who has a near p4p level win just asked for fair gauranteed pay..

is lomo going to get 850k this bout? UM WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT..
he's basically buying a title form a washed up fighter that just robbed salido aka lomo's pops

[HI-TECH Boxing]

he said he would do it for lomo..lomo wanted no parts of it..like i said if walters did not make it then fight a fill in opponent..neither of us can name his last 2 opponents lol...bro u could have a replacement opponent on ice for 2 or 3 months if you wanted..u know how many guys would take that fight?? its a shot at a title my dude..lomo got **** for fighting nobodies on long notice so wat is the difference?

diva? the guy who demanded the most money with 6 fights and a loss or athe guy who has a near p4p level win just asked for fair gauranteed pay..

is lomo going to get 850k this bout? UM WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT..
he's basically buying a title form a washed up fighter that just robbed salido aka lomo's pops

Aren't you tired of whining?
Get out with that BS. The reason why Loma-Walters was being negotiated at 130 was because WALTERS wanted the fight at 130. It's obvious, except to certain people like yourself, that Walters wanted to make it look like Loma was ducking by saying that he could make 126. When negotiations got serious, however, little Nick wanted that fight at 130 and he even wanted more time (which I'm assuming was to make the weight). If he could make the weight as fine as you say, then why didn't he fight Loma in April at 126 for Loma's belt?
It was all BS from Walters. And I already explained the replacement opponent situation more than once to you. I'm not going to explain it again.
Lomachenko was originally offered 650K then it got raised to 850K. So he's not the one asking for more money. He was simply offered more money just like Walters was. Walters was the one who wanted 1 million to fight that "bum" Lomachenko.
No matter what Loma does he will always be in the wrong with simple minded fools like you. There are still people that say Loma is ducking Rigo even though Loma was the one that called Rigo's bluff. No matter what Loma does he'll never please people like you. I think it due to obvious reasons.

It's funny how you decided to reply to me here since last time we were arguing you told me not to talk to you anymore because I hurt your little feelings.

[tiliheels]

Aren't you tired of whining?
Get out with that BS. The reason why Loma-Walters was being negotiated at 130 was because WALTERS wanted the fight at 130. It's obvious, except to certain people like yourself, that Walters wanted to make it look like Loma was ducking by saying that he could make 126. When negotiations got serious, however, little Nick wanted that fight at 130 and he even wanted more time (which I'm assuming was to make the weight). If he could make the weight as fine as you say, then why didn't he fight Loma in April at 126 for Loma's belt?
It was all BS from Walters. And I already explained the replacement opponent situation more than once to you. I'm not going to explain it again.
Lomachenko was originally offered 650K then it got raised to 850K. So he's not the one asking for more money. He was simply offered more money just like Walters was. Walters was the one who wanted 1 million to fight that "bum" Lomachenko.
No matter what Loma does he will always be in the wrong with simple minded fools like you. There are still people that say Loma is ducking Rigo even though Loma was the one that called Rigo's bluff. No matter what Loma does he'll never please people like you. I think it due to obvious reasons.

It's funny how you decided to reply to me here since last time we were arguing you told me not to talk to you anymore because I hurt your little feelings.

see you know it is bs bc know u trying to shift the blame...idc where the blame is as long as it is not on walters...bc it is simply not fair...

i blame bob and hbo...and i blame lomo for accepting that he should be paid better than these more proven fighters that he doesnt have a bigger fan base than.

now by.e

[The-Iron-Sheik]

What is your proof that max boxing is declining?

This needs to be clarified, Jake.

[tiliheels]

Aren't you tired of whining?
Get out with that BS. The reason why Loma-Walters was being negotiated at 130 was because WALTERS wanted the fight at 130. It's obvious, except to certain people like yourself, that Walters wanted to make it look like Loma was ducking by saying that he could make 126. When negotiations got serious, however, little Nick wanted that fight at 130 and he even wanted more time (which I'm assuming was to make the weight). If he could make the weight as fine as you say, then why didn't he fight Loma in April at 126 for Loma's belt?
It was all BS from Walters. And I already explained the replacement opponent situation more than once to you. I'm not going to explain it again.
Lomachenko was originally offered 650K then it got raised to 850K. So he's not the one asking for more money. He was simply offered more money just like Walters was. Walters was the one who wanted 1 million to fight that "bum" Lomachenko.
No matter what Loma does he will always be in the wrong with simple minded fools like you. There are still people that say Loma is ducking Rigo even though Loma was the one that called Rigo's bluff. No matter what Loma does he'll never please people like you. I think it due to obvious reasons.

It's funny how you decided to reply to me here since last time we were arguing you told me not to talk to you anymore because I hurt your little feelings.

i never siad rigo or lomo is ducking..i said they cant come to terms bc top rank and hbo wont pay...but rigo let it go..lomo went on bashing their team...that is wat i did not ike..if u're ppl wont pay your opponents you are with the wrong people. not the other parties fault

[HI-TECH Boxing]

see you know it is bs bc know u trying to shift the blame...idc where the blame is as long as it is not on walters...bc it is simply not fair...

i blame bob and hbo...and i blame lomo for accepting that he should be paid better than these more proven fighters that he doesnt have a bigger fan base than.

now by.e

How exactly am I trying to shift the blame? The blame is still on Walters.
Loma has a higher guarantee than Walters, If I'm not mistaken. Plus Loma is sacrificing more to fight Walters, so why shouldn't he get more of the money? Loma will get stripped out of his title, he has to move up for Walters and he accepted to fight Walters in June because Walters didn't want to fight in April. What else could be given to Walters? Loma wouldn't even be fighting Walters for a title.
Does Walters and Rigo have a bigger fan base? No, none of the fighters are popular in the US. So that shouldn't be an argument to begin with. I don't see Loma or his fans saying he's more popular than them or any other fighter.

Loma is moving on. Walters has wasted a lot of his time. I would tell Loma to not spend a lot of time with Walters in the future as well. Walters just wastes Loma's time.

i never siad rigo or lomo is ducking..i said they cant come to terms bc top rank and hbo wont pay...but rigo let it go..lomo went on bashing their team...that is wat i did not ike..if u're ppl wont pay your opponents you are with the wrong people. not the other parties fault

Where exactly did I say that YOU said anything about ducking? I said there are still people saying that Loma is ducking Rigo. I didn't say a specific person. It's true though. There are still many people that say that Loma is ducking Rigo. However, we all know what happened.
So you had a problem when Loma "bashed" Rigo's team, as you put it, but I bet you don't have a problem that Rigo's team and fans have been talking crap about Loma since Loma's debut, right? Rigo and his team (and fans) have been talking bad about Loma since Loma's debut.
Loma finally decided to reply last year and people got offended. It was hilarious to see.
They've asked Loma about Rigo since Loma turned pro and all Loma used to say was that he didn't feel comfortable calling out a smaller fighter. However, Rigo's team, and fans kept talking crap about Loma for over a year and Loma finally got tired of it and decided to call Rigo's bluff. That's all that happened. People like to forget that Rigo (team and fans included) started it. I wonder why?

You're really stubborn. You could keep blaming Loma and you could keep hoping he gets KO'ed for whatever reason. Loma doesn't need fans like you anyway.

WAR HI-TECH!!!!!!
Walters didn't want it and Rigo didn't want it.